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I would just plan to prevent it in the first place. If you pitch cold, pitch the correct amount of yeast, and oxygenate well, you will more than likely not need a diacetyl rest.
Also, there is not an exact right time to catch the fermentation, any increase in temp towards the end of fermentation will encourage the yeast to uptake the diacetyl. This is only to increase their rate of uptake really, if you let it sit long enough the yeast will re-absorb it without the increase in temperature. |
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I don't think fresh yeast are going to clean up diacetyl after primary fermentation is complete. However, you can do this if you like... you just need to "krausen" the beer. I.e., make a yeast starter with your new yeast, ideally with wort from brewday. You can pitch it when it is at high krausen any time after fermentation is complete and it will help clean up diacetyl and other compounds. IIRC, the proper volume for krausening is 1/10 the volume of the beer.
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Ok, I was assuming that the yeast would have to be in an active state (i.e. not in their stationary phase where little metabolic activity is occurring) in order to clean up diacetyl. I guess I need to read up on eactly what process of metabolism is involved in converting diacetyl and acetylaldehyde.
Regarding krausening, I was thinking of that as well, because it is essentially the same idea, except that new fermentables are being added to the beer along with the yeast. My only concern -- again, probably a misguided concern based upon a misunderstanding of the process -- is that this second fermentation may require a period of conditioning to clean up after itself. It makes me wonder if, apart from the inconvenience and additional cost, it wouldn't ALWAYS be a good idea to krausen -- at least, if the goal is reducing diacetyl to a minimum. |
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I don't know any situation (at least for a lager) where krausening would be a bad idea. It is supposed to clean up and smooth out the beer. I've never done it myself (i.e., actual krausening by definition), but Greg Noonan speaks highly of it in New Brewing Lager Beer.
Just set aside 1/10 the volume of the wort on brewday... put it into canning jars and boil it in the jar for like 10 minutes. Then, you can keep and wash yeast from primary, add it to the canned wort in a starter-sized vessel. This way you don't need any extra yeast or wort. This secondary fermentation doesn't need to clean up after itself. It is the cleaner-upper.
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