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11-28-2008, 11:31 PM
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Alt Bier?
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I just ordered an Alt kit from AHS (extract and specialty grain). It comes with ale yeast, but I ordered a pack of lager yeast, too.
What I am thinking of doing is to use the ale yeast at primary, at about 68*, for a couple of weeks.
Then, transfer to secondary with the lager yeast, at about 50* for a couple of weeks, then into the kegerator for a couple of weeks at 38*.
At that point, it will go into the keg, either to drink, or more lagering.
I wonder if I should add the priming sugar (I force carb) to the secondary, to give the lager yeast something to munch on?
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11-28-2008, 11:46 PM
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An Alt(old) ale is an ale that gets lagered so there is no need to use a lager yeast IMHO
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11-28-2008, 11:49 PM
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I have been reading (always a dangerous thing). The "alt yeast" the Germans developed was cold conditioned ale yeast. The yeast developed a resistance to cold, but was still top fermenting.
I am trying to emulate that by using ale and lager yeast.
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11-28-2008, 11:55 PM
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Burrowing Owl Brewery
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Since you keg, just ferment as normal (on the cool side) then lager in the keg for 4-6 weeks and you'll have a nice beer
I like Alts more than any other German beer
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f63/alt-owl-58704/
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11-30-2008, 03:12 AM
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I have brewed several alts. Just ferment with the ale yeast (what strain?) - when the fermentation is complete, cold condition (lager) the beer as long as you can stand it. I have gone a couple of months. Then bottle or keg and you are good to go. No need to add a lager yeast.
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12-01-2008, 01:38 AM
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You really need to use Alt yeast. Wyeast 1007 German Ale is good. I know Whitelabs makes one, but I dont know it off the top of my head.
Ferment at 60*F until finished, then bring down to lagering temps for a month or two. Longer if you want clear beer, since Alt yeast is a low floccuating strain.
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12-02-2008, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt_Kirks
I have been reading (always a dangerous thing). The "alt yeast" the Germans developed was cold conditioned ale yeast. The yeast developed a resistance to cold, but was still top fermenting.
I am trying to emulate that by using ale and lager yeast.
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I don't think you'd accomplish much by adding lager yeast to an already fermented beer at secondary. Ale yeast are pretty thorough about using up all the food, oxygen and nutrients in a beer and contributing to the flavor. Ale yeast typically add more flavor to a beer than a lager yeast. So, really adding a lager yeast wouldn't add any notable qualities to the beer.
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12-02-2008, 07:40 PM
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Be good to your yeast...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edcculus
You really need to use Alt yeast. Wyeast 1007 German Ale is good. I know Whitelabs makes one, but I dont know it off the top of my head.
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WLP036. It's a platinum strain. The Wyeast 1007 is available year-round.
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12-02-2008, 07:59 PM
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why don't you just use an alt yeast?
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12-03-2008, 01:54 PM
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I am making an alt(hopefully this wknd) and I'll be using whitelabs 011 European ale yeast. Here's their info
WLP011 European Ale Yeast
Malty, Northern European-origin ale yeast. Low ester production, giving a clean profile. Little to no sulfur production. Low attenuation helps to contribute to the malty character. Good for Alt, Kolsch, malty English ales, and fruit beers.
Attenuation: 65-70%
Flocculation: Medium
Ideal Fermentation Temperature Range: 65-70°F
Alcohol Tolerance: Medium
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Drinking Stone's Russian Imperial Stout, Brown Ale, Porter
Conditioning: (lagering) Bo Pils, Oktoberfest
Secondary
Primary Citra extra pale ale, Bock
On Deck: Arrogant Bastard clone
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