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Old 09-18-2009, 12:53 AM   #11
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If it was me personally I would skip out on the airstone, just doesn't sound kosher if not used with proper awareness. I wouldn't try to intentionally oxidize the beer at all for that matter, for as long as your aging it, it will happen to some extent naturally. Although I think the sherry flavors of oxidation would compliment the beer, I wouldn't risk over doing it.

La Crema is a pretty smooth, low tannin pinot noir for about 20 bucks, i've had the coppola but don't remember it, just that I liked it but not as much as the crema. I think toasting the oak is a good idea, are you gonna add just the oak after its soaked, or throw in some of the wine too? I'm thinking, add the oak, then taste the left over wine, perhaps even add some to a glass of barleywine to get an idea of the combination, and if it tastes good throw some of the wine in too.

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Old 09-18-2009, 01:17 AM   #12
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I don't know about wine, but I'm about to rack a barleywine onto 3oz Med toast american oak cubes that has been soaking in Makers and age it for a year. Wish I had thought of wine, I have a great homemade red blend in the cellar that would be good for that. Maybe next time.

I wouldn't use an expensive bottle of wine since you're not putting a lot in the beer. Don't go with wine in a box but don't go nuts on a $30 bottle. If it was me, I would probably use a Cab or Cab/Merlot.

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Old 01-06-2010, 04:57 AM   #13
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So, how did the barleywine turn out?

It sounded like it was going to be winner...

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Old 01-06-2010, 07:18 AM   #14
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Me likey this.

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Old 01-06-2010, 01:30 PM   #15
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It's been shown that a Plastic "Ale Pale" has a higher oxygen permeation than an Oak Barrel. (Yeah, I didn't believe it either!) I've seen it mentioned on this site as well as a previous podcast of BrewStrong. I'd just rack it in to a bucket on top of the oak chips if you are thinking of the airstone idea. Just my $.02.

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Old 01-06-2010, 01:42 PM   #16
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I Think I will try red wine aged oak chip in my next Barley Wine. I have one barley wine aging now and I used 1.5.oz of American Oak chips that soaked in 5 oz of Jameson 18 year old whiskey for a month before going into the secondary.

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Are you also going to be adding the wine that you are soaking the chips in? From what I understand the wine takes on the wood flavor and the wood takes on the wine flavor.

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Are you also going to be adding the wine that you are soaking the chips in? From what I understand the wine takes on the wood flavor and the wood takes on the wine flavor.
No more for you, it's only 11am and you're contradicting yourself!
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:28 AM   #19
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Okay yall asked, so here's an update...

I brewed this beer back in early August. I gave it about a month in primary, then racked it to secondary where it sat for another month. Then I added 2oz medium toast Hungarian oak cubes that had a 2 week sit on about 4 oz's of French Cab.

I left the oak cubes(+wine) on it for about 2 months then bottled.

Its drinking pretty good right now. As far as the red wine oak aging I'm satisfied with the result, it's definitely more oak-y than red wine-y. Since I had such low attenuation the beer is pretty dry to begin with and the red wine really comes through on the dry side as well with a definite faint cab flavor. The oak is still a bit strong but I feel this beer is still a bit green and the oak will fade to a nice level as this beer ages.

Overall I feel like I missed the mark with my barley wine since I didn't do any of the dry hoping that I had originally planned for. I had to bottle sooner than I wanted because I had to move houses. So I bottled instead of racking a 3rd time just to get it off the oak. It came out a lot more English style than I'd have liked but its still pretty tasty.

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Glad it turned out OK, I'm sure the flavors will blend together nicely with time.

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