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Old 11-26-2005, 03:36 PM   #1
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After several batches, I thought my wort to fermentor bucket/carboy was perfect. I was able to leave 90% of the trub behind.

....until the past 2 batches.

Enter trub and almost all of it. I cant seperate it. I dont even know what I did differently. I cool 3gallons of wort down in my sink surround by ice. This takes it to 90 degress in about 20min. Then I slowly pick up the wort out of the water, sit on the counter and let it sit another 20min to make its settled. Finally, I sanitize my siphon and drain the wort into the fermentor. The trub wont settle. Whats the trick?

I do use wirfloc tablets 20minutes before end of boil. But maybe here is my problem. Wirfloc is for clarity and not coagulation? I should be dropping some gypsum in there?

Did I just answer my own question? And if so, the next one would be what happens if you drop your entire wort, trub and all into the fermentor, repercussions? Or just let it settle, rack to secondary and all is forgiven?

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Old 11-26-2005, 03:56 PM   #2
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Many people dump the whole thing into their bucket...it will settle out during fermentation and you'll leave it behind when you rack to secondary.

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Old 11-26-2005, 04:04 PM   #3
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I don't sweat the trub. You'll leave it behind in the primary when you transfer to secondary. Some people say that some components of the trub are essential for the yeast.
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:54 PM   #4
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Whirfloc de-natures in about five minutes at a boil, so you added it too soon. Irish Moss (actually seaweed) is more forgiving on the timing. The proteins in the moss will make particles clump and drop out.

Get a big strainer or straining bag. I found a bag at the local wine supply place that fits my fermentor. Line the bucket, pour in wort, remove bag. Also works great for fruit in ciders.

But, almost everything will settle out during the ferment.

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When I made my first batch, I dumped everything (trub and all) into the primary. I didn't have a secondary, so it all sat for a couple of weeks. The result was an extremely bitter beer.

The second was strained a little bit more, but still had pungent flavors. It wasn't until I started straining and using a secondary that I made yummy beer. Now I'm totally into fine-meshed hop bags, grain bags, and straining. Makes for a much easier-to-work-with wort.

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Old 11-26-2005, 05:36 PM   #6
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I pour my wort through a nylon mesh net that is mounted to the top of my plastic primary. I have to keep it on using 4 clamps. Once I poured the wort in and the entire net splashed into the fermenter. Oops!

It does a good job of "collecting" any solids in the wort. Except for some of the hop pellet granules. Most of the time the pellets amount to about 2-3 handfulls of hops removed. I usually sparge whatever is caught in the net.

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I am still realtively new at brewing but I have always poured trub and all in the primary. I have also always used a secondary which really helps in settling out all the trub. So far every beer has been great!! For my next batch I will be trying to filter out everything.

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I feel your pain. A couple months ago, I had a batch that the trub settled out in the kettle like a work of art. As I drained the wort out and got to the bottom of the kettle, the trub stayed together and never colapsed. I always add moss and whirlpool after the boil but still can't repeat that perfect break.
I think the type of hops used might be a factor. I also noticed if I put a lid on the kettle while waiting for the break to settle it seems to help.

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Old 11-30-2005, 02:16 AM   #9
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Thanks for your thoughts everyone!

After read this, I relaxed and had a homebrew

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Quote:
Originally Posted by david_42
Whirfloc de-natures in about five minutes at a boil, so you added it too soon.

Please show me the source for this information. I'm adding with 15 minutes left to boil and it has worked perfectly every time I've used it.
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