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Old 02-25-2009, 03:14 AM   #121
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Sucrose would require the yeast to produce invertase, in a high alcohol environment I'm not sure how good the yeast would be at adapting to produce invertase? It might work... Inverting the sugar using an acid and heat before adding would certainly work, but it'd be a pain compared to dumping in dextrose I would think.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:21 AM   #122
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One other question, is there any particular reason to use dextrose over sucrose? My understanding was that sucrose is more fermentable. I'm not really sure on the difference in flavor, post fermenation.
You could use table sugar, but dextrose is easier to dissolve and lessens the chances of (more) cidery off-tastes.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:04 PM   #123
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You are inspiring me. I'm trying to dig through this thread...how did you end up deciding to add the dextrose? Dry?
You missed my first question.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:17 PM   #124
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Yeasties destroyed the last sugar addition. More oxygen and sugar went in today. I'm stirring up the cake with my aeration stone and racking cane, then simply sprinkling the corn sugar on top. There was mention about added nucleation sites making for a bubbly mess... didn't have that problem. It may be more of an issue in a carboy...
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:32 PM   #125
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what he said...

I'm done adding oxygen to this soup... so I switched to my large plastic brew spoon. I crack it open, stir the heck out of it, pour in a pound, stir until dissolved, close it up.

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Old 02-25-2009, 01:29 PM   #126
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I'm done adding oxygen to this soup... so I switched to my large plastic brew spoon. I crack it open, stir the heck out of it, pour in a pound, stir until dissolved, close it up.
C'mon...admit it...you talk to it don't you?
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Old 02-25-2009, 01:34 PM   #127
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I've been trying to talk it into being finished and aged immediately but it doesn't want any of that...

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I just got this visual of you at the base of the castle (which is a huge fermenter bucket)...yelling up for it to finish and age quickly...and it yelling; "I fart in thy general direction!" and throwing a cow out of the fermenter.

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Old 02-25-2009, 09:59 PM   #129
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Here's an actual visual for you guys. This stuff is THICK. There is a MASSIVE amount of yeast in this thing. I'm up to 8 pounds of dextrose on top of the 1.091 initial gravity. The thing shows no signs of stopping. The pound of dextrose I added last night is done and gone. I bet if I checked gravity before this last addition it would be LOWER. At this point, this thing has so much yeast in it, it'll eat ANYTHING I put in there!!!




Oh, another note... I finally hit the point where the CO2 in solution will foam up the fermenter. I stirred it up real good like I didnt in the past, but I didn't add oxygen. I sprinkled in like 1/2 pound of dextrose on top and the thing started foaming up real good. It almost went over the top. You can see the line from last night. At this point I gotta be REAL careful adding extra sugar. Add a little, let it foam up, and let it settle down.

Also, notice the level of the liquid in the bucket. I'd say its pretty damn close to 6.5 gallons now. The yeast cake this thing makes in 1 days is impressive. Its gotta be over an inch thick at the bottom in 24 hours. I also added in a full 5 gallon starter cake for the WLP099 which was damn near 3/4 gallon of pure sediment.

I tasted it too... its CRAZY bitter and has a lot of winey flavors. I'm definitely going to need to keep adding sugar until the yeast won't go anymore. Other threads I saw landed the FG at like 1.030. I'll probably need to reach that in order to balance out the extreme hop bitterness. It sounds insane, but thats 3 MORE pounds of dextrose on top of what I already have in there IF THE YEAST STOP EATING NOW!!! That would already be 11 pounds of dextrose. I only have 5 more pounds of dextrose here, so that may mean I gotta make a run to the LHBS to pick up another 5 pounds! HAHAH!

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Old 02-25-2009, 10:04 PM   #130
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The first thing I thought when I looked at that picture was...ummmm, I want a sip!

That is one insane brew you got going there...love it!

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