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Old 07-04-2011, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default Points of Crystal malt

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If a Crystal malt's yield is 20 points ( by steeping ) , can you say that 1 Oz. of this malt which is steeped for 30 minutes in

0.26 Gallon of water would yield 5 points ?!

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Hi there !

If a Crystal malt's yield is 20 points ( by steeping ) , can you say that 1 Oz. of this malt which is steeped for 30 minutes in

0.26 Gallon of water would yield 5 points ?!

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I think crystal malt is more like 14 ppg (points per gallon per pound of grain) http://www.howtobrew.com/section2/chapter12-4-1.html

Using one ounce is such a small amount that I'd not venture a guess if you would get ANY gravity points.
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I think crystal malt is more like 14 ppg (points per gallon per pound of grain) http://www.howtobrew.com/section2/chapter12-4-1.html

Using one ounce is such a small amount that I'd not venture a guess if you would get ANY gravity points.
Does crystal make even yield anything fermentable? I was under the impression that it only yielded non-fermentables, hence why it should not be used in large amounts?
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Does crystal make even yield anything fermentable? I was under the impression that it only yielded non-fermentables, hence why it should not be used in large amounts?
It provides a small amount of fermentable sugars. Not much, but some. It's mostly for color and flavor.

But using less than .25 pound in a batch of beer is a "Why bother?" as far as I'm concerned.

With one ounce, you'd get very little color or flavor, and minimal sugars, even in a one gallon batch.
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It provides a small amount of fermentable sugars. Not much, but some. It's mostly for color and flavor.

But using less than .25 pound in a batch of beer is a "Why bother?" as far as I'm concerned.

With one ounce, you'd get very little color or flavor, and minimal sugars, even in a one gallon batch.
Ok that is what i thought. I have a batch that is Kegged that i have yet to taste that had 5lbs of Crystal 60 in it, When i ordered my grains i screwed up and ordered a 2-5lb bags of crystal 60 instead of 1lb bags, so i said the hell with it and used 5lbs in a batch just to see how it comes out. Its on the gas carbing up now.
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Ok that is what i thought. I have a batch that is Kegged that i have yet to taste that had 5lbs of Crystal 60 in it, When i ordered my grains i screwed up and ordered a 2-5lb bags of crystal 60 instead of 1lb bags, so i said the hell with it and used 5lbs in a batch just to see how it comes out. Its on the gas carbing up now.
It should taste pretty carmelly sweet!
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It should taste pretty carmelly sweet!
Thats the hope lol.
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To the OP's question, the number is about right, in 1/4 a gallon of wort, the crystal of 1 oz (14pts/gallon =~1point/oz) woudl be about 4 points. But several questions are raised at this. Yooper pointed out the 'why bother' And then the whole 1/4 a gallon (.26 gallon) again... Why bother? by the tiem you get that finished you've put in excessive amount of time in for waht 2 or 3 12 oz bottles?

Maybe it is 'malt tea' for summer icing and no fermenting involved...

Vance +1 on teh 5lb of crystal 60... let us know how that comes out.
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To "Yooper" and "ACbrewer" :

I'm an Extract brewer and I have had some issues with my beer brewed with DME . Therefore , I make small test Batches ( 1 Liter = 0.26 gallon )

to find the Origin of the Problem and solve it .

Today , I made for the first time Crystal malt at Home using the Oven and I'm going to use them as steeping Grain . But , I don't know the

Lovibond number of this malt and its p.p.g.

The p.p.g. you mentioned ( 14 Points ) belongs to "Light Crystal" , but I would say mine should be Pale or Medium crystal ( due to its color ) .

It was for one Hour in the Oven at 250F . Therefore , I suppose my malt's p.p.g. would be around 20 ( by steeping ) .

Since O.G. of my small Beer is going to be 1.050 , I wanted to be sure that the amount of Crystal malt wouldn't be more than 20% of the whole malt .

So , 1 liter is nearly 1/4 gallon and 1 Pound per Gallon is the same as 1 Oz. dissolved in 0.06 Gallon .

But , my Wort is diluted nearly 4 times (0.26/0.06 = ~ 4 ) and I'd like to know if I can say steeping my Crystal malt would yield about 5 Points ?!

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There's one simple way to find out. Steep some of your crystal in some water, carefully measuring the volume of water and weight of malt. Cool it, and measure the gravity.

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