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 DrJerryrigger 09-05-2011 06:05 PM

Calculating SRM of Parti-Gyle

So I have a hard time reading math typed out, so I just took pics of my chalk board.
I'm not sure if I'm doing these calculations right. I made the assumption that color extraction was proportional to sugar extraction. That's color in MCU's, not SRM.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...ryrigger/1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...rigger/2-1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y...rigger/3-1.jpg

 DrJerryrigger 09-06-2011 06:01 PM

Well, I guess I'll just brew it and see if these numbers look right....

 hopsalot 09-06-2011 08:16 PM

I believe your assumption is wrong.

MCU =(lovibond of grain * Grain weight)/ volume of batch

The volume used in the equation should be you batch/final volume.

22.8 SRM just from 1.8*L 2-row is way off, 4.37 SRM for 16 lbs at 1.8*L

I get 21.27 SRM for the batch

 michaeltrego 09-06-2011 08:39 PM

By my calcs in Promash, with that grainbill for a total of 9.2 gallons, the total SRM would be 15.9 -- let's say 16. According to the Mosher partigyle guidelines, when you do a 1/3 - 2/3 split of that 16 SRM, it would result in 24 SRM for the 1.078 big beer and 12 SRM for the 1.039 small beer (at 75% efficiency).

 DrJerryrigger 09-06-2011 08:56 PM

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 Originally Posted by hopsalot (Post 3233603) I believe your assumption is wrong. MCU =(lovibond of grain * Grain weight)/ volume of batch your SRM equation is right, but you miscalculated your MCU The volume used in the equation should be you batch/final volume. 22.8 SRM just from 1.8*L 2-row is way off, 4.37 SRM for 16 lbs at 1.8*L I get 21.27 SRM for the batch
Is the 22.8 your referring to on the bottom left of figure #1? If so that is the MCU from that grain before being divided by any volume.

Is that 21.27SRM for the both the 3.2gal and 6 gal batch combined?

 DrJerryrigger 09-06-2011 09:18 PM

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 Originally Posted by michaeltrego (Post 3233677) By my calcs in Promash, with that grainbill for a total of 9.2 gallons, the total SRM would be 15.9 -- let's say 16. According to the Mosher partigyle guidelines, when you do a 1/3 - 2/3 split of that 16 SRM, it would result in 24 SRM for the 1.078 big beer and 12 SRM for the 1.039 small beer (at 75% efficiency).
Cool thanks. Those number don't seem that far off from what I came up with (and off in the right way as it's not exactly the same).
That spread sheet looks quite useful, I'll try figure out what formula they used for it. But not right now, as I'm in the middle of a bottling operation.

 hopsalot 09-06-2011 09:30 PM

so you your total volume is 9.2 gal?

I get 6.73 SRM for the 3.2gal batch

and 19.76 SRM fo the 6gal batch

I dont know if you still sum the MCU's then calculate the SRM like you would if it was one batch with the same volume, so I am going to step out of this one.

 DrJerryrigger 09-06-2011 10:41 PM

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 Originally Posted by hopsalot (Post 3233812) I dont know if you still sum the MCU's then calculate the SRM like you would if it was one batch with the same volume, so I am going to step out of this one.
Well, I don't really know the right way to do this either, but thanks for trying. I'll be making this tomorrow, so I can see if the original calculations are about right (wish I had some way of testing, other than "eyeballing it").

 hopsalot 09-07-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:
 Originally Posted by DrJerryrigger (Post 3233966) Well, I don't really know the right way to do this either, but thanks for trying. I'll be making this tomorrow, so I can see if the original calculations are about right (wish I had some way of testing, other than "eyeballing it").