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Old 07-10-2012, 07:41 PM   #1
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I'm prepping to do a 100% brett beer with WLP645, Brett Claussenii (Anomalus).

I started a breed up on 7/6 with one vial of WLP645 and .5L 11P wort with 1/2 teaspoon of yeast nutrient and 1/2 tablespoon of maltodextrin on a stir-plate. The maltodextrin was added on a whim. Not a standard starter ingredient, but I thought, "the brett can eat it, so maybe it would like some."

7/8 there was good looking activity (not raging, but good), so I stepped it up to 2.2L with 11P wort (was aiming for 2L, but over poured). Again I added 1/2 tsp of yeast nutrient and 1/2 tbls maltodextrin.

Looking pretty good this morning 7/10. It's my first brett starter, I'm used to a different looking krausen, but I think it looks pretty good:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tkmace/7544427644/
This is way faster than most postings about brett starters, but I felt I could be aggressive based on visual growth.


So I'm getting ready for brew day tomorrow or Thursday 7/11 or 7/12, and was wondering if anyone had any comments about this recipe. I'm shooting for a quick turnaround to drinking time, 8 weeks. Also somewhat non-standard, but i'm giving it a shot. If it's not ready, I'll just wait longer to drink.
I'm going for amber-ish color, low bitterness, but hop forward aroma. (Some tropical from the hops to help out the brett). I am hopeful that I will get distinctly different character than a sacc fermentation. (6gal batch, OG 13.6)

72% 2-row
3% Car. 60 L
7% Acidulated (1/2 added near the end of mash cycle)
2% Chocolate malt
8% Munich 10L
8% dextrose kettle

Mash low 151F

.2 oz Millennium 16%AA 60 min
1 oz Nelson Sav EOB
1 oz Cascade EOB

I use a touch of fermcap in the boil. Any comments about fermcap and Brett?
Shooting for a fermentation temp of 70F. I usually only control with initial temp and insulation. Should be OK this time of year in my house.
I'm planning on low but some aeration. (I wish I had a way to measure.)

I also don't know wether to chill and decant my starter or not. Seems like that would shock the brett a bit, but I don't want much acetic character to carryover from the starter. (I'm used to just pouring the whole thing into the fermenter.)

Comments? Help? What did I leave out?

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Old 07-10-2012, 09:17 PM   #2
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Isnt the bitterness pretty low on that beer? You dont need to keep the bitterness low in 100% Brett beers like you do in a beer with Lacto Pedio etc. I Used Brett C in a 100% Brett fermentation on an ESB, the recipe from Brewing Classic Styles actually, which I think clocks in at 35 IBUs (off the top of my head). I think youre going be left wanting a litte bit of bitterness to balance out the Brett, but I only have 1 100% Brett beer under my belt.

I would just pitch the entire starter, thats what I did. Plus from what Ive been reading, it takes ~8 days for an all brett starter to ferment out so you may still have some sugars left to ferment in there.

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Old 07-11-2012, 03:51 PM   #3
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+1 on upping the bitterness. 100% brett doesnt super attenuate so you'd want the same bitterness as you'd use with sacchro

no idea why you're krausen looks diff, my brett ones always look similar to sacchro

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I'm shooting for a quick turnaround to drinking time, 8 weeks. Also somewhat non-standard, but i'm giving it a shot. If it's not ready, I'll just wait longer to drink.
it should be ready long before 8 weeks (even if that includes bottle carbonation time)
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I like the look of that starter!

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I like the look of that starter!
Is that normal for a Brett starter?
Yeah a bit more hops would probably be good, just want to make sure it is balanced and would like it to dry out.
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Is that normal for a Brett starter?
Yeah a bit more hops would probably be good, just want to make sure it is balanced and would like it to dry out.
Looks like a normal brett starter. I've had brett starters that looked/behaved just like normal sacch starters and ones that formed pellicles like yours. Its the same as fermenting full batches, a pellicle may or may not develop depending on the amount of oxygen present.
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So far so good. Beer smells good, tropical and some earthy notes. Some strange yeast funk

I did bump up the bitterness. Ended up going with a blend of Nelson, Citra, Bravo and a bit of Saaz in the finish. Shooting for 40 BU's.
The other recipe change I made was to switch out the C-60 for a bit less Patagonia C-150, and added rye flakes to 4%. 7% Acidulated brought my mash pH down from 5.6 to 5.2.

OG ended up at 15P

Date: Deg P: pH: Notes:
7/12/12 15 5 Pitched all of starter.
7/16/12 7 4.4 Still obvious swirling yeast activity today.
7/18/12 4.5 starting to clear a bit. 10 sec or less between bubbles still.

Still hoping for a terminal of 1.5-2 P.

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