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Old 01-04-2015, 10:13 PM   #1
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Has anyone made a starter with Roeselare with good results?

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Old 01-07-2015, 07:21 PM   #2
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yes, but they were 5gallon ones...

what are you trying to gain in making a starter from Roe?

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Old 01-07-2015, 08:06 PM   #3
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Its not recommended to be used with a starter since you'll be throwing off the % of each strain in it.

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Let's say you have an old pack. Pitching it along with another Sacch strain and/or with dregs also throws off the balance. I'm just wondering what type of results could be expected from making a starter and only pitching that. I'm guessing it might not sour as fast as the Sacch will out compete the bugs in the starter?

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That's a mess of variables on top of wondering how viable the original blend is, but that's besides the point.
I'd look up some threads on reusing the cake to get an idea of what you might expect.

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right, making a starter from Roe would slow it down even more, it already takes at least a year to sour as is. even if it is old, I'd just pitch it as is and maybe some dregs. if no activity after a few days, then id consider adding sacch

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I'm guessing it might not sour as fast as the Sacch will out compete the bugs in the starter?
You got it. I prefer to use older packs, so the sacc works slower.
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right, making a starter from Roe would slow it down even more, it already takes at least a year to sour as is. even if it is old, I'd just pitch it as is and maybe some dregs. if no activity after a few days, then id consider adding sacch
What if the starter is anaerobic at higher temps. Can one increase the bug population relative to the sac (such as lacto)? Could it not work the other way round? Perhaps the bug count is too low initially for this to be viable. Maybe just pitch some lacto along with it then wake the sac up with O2 later?
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What if the starter is anaerobic at higher temps. Can one increase the bug population relative to the sac (such as lacto)? Could it not work the other way round? Perhaps the bug count is too low initially for this to be viable. Maybe just pitch some lacto along with it then wake the sac up with O2 later?
Sac also prefers higher temps, so that won't slow it down. Being devoid of oxygen would, but I'm not sure it would enough. Perhaps a non-smacked pack, with a lower pH & no oxygen starter might
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