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Old 01-24-2014, 03:08 PM   #11
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This hobby is rife with regurgitation. I'm not all that familiar with the smell of a horse, barn, or goat, so I don't use these as descriptors. As close as I can come is my take on brett brux (pear, leather, and hay).

More specific to your question... Sweaty horse blanket? Guess I'm not familiar, but that sounds absolutely disgusting. Barnyard funk? Strikes me as a bit of a cop-out in its lack of specificity.

I think we'd be a lot better off if people understood there are no wrong answers, just say what they taste, and be as specific as possible. I say some pretty off the wall stuff, to the point where my wife (who admittedly has a better palate than mine) thinks my palate is broken. But every once in a while I nail one. I think back to a wine tasting, where I tasted jalapeno in a rosé. My wife laughed, as did the sommelier, until they tasted it. They had gone through more than half of a bad bottle, and no one had said a word.

Sorry for getting on my soap box, this is a pet peeve of mine.

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Old 01-24-2014, 03:14 PM   #12
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Totally agree. My comment wasn't so much about right vs wrong, but what people mean by using a certain colorful descriptor like sweaty horse blanket. Also probably true that our sensory taste experience will be influenced by our perception of the description. If you like horse blanket and that is the description then I'm betting you'll be more likely to enjoy the beverage. And vice versa.

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This hobby is rife with regurgitation. I'm not all that familiar with the smell of a horse, barn, or goat, so I don't use these as descriptors. As close as I can come is my take on brett brux (pear, leather, and hay).

More specific to your question... Sweaty horse blanket? Guess I'm not familiar, but that sounds absolutely disgusting. Barnyard funk? Strikes me as a bit of a cop-out in its lack of specificity.

I think we'd be a lot better off if people understood there are no wrong answers, just say what they taste, and be as specific as possible. I say some pretty off the wall stuff, to the point where my wife (who admittedly has a better palate than mine) thinks my palate is broken. But every once in a while I nail one. I think back to a wine tasting, where I tasted jalapeno in a rosé. My wife laughed, as did the sommelier, until they tasted it. They had gone through more than half of a bad bottle, and no one had said a word.

Sorry for getting on my soap box, this is a pet peeve of mine.
I get what you're saying, but I disagree that "barnyard funk" is a cop out if you aren't familiar with what the smell of horses or barns is. That may not be a descriptor that resonates with you, but for me, I know exactly what someone is getting at when they use it. I can be more specific-and I think we've done a good job elaborating what those more specific aromas and flavors are in this thread-but barnyard is shorthand for all those other things for us. For someone who grew up on the beach, I can TRY to describe what the smells of salt, seaweed, fish, docks, tide pools, suntan lotion, surf wax, fog, sand, tar, rotting sea things, weed, bonfires, etc. mean to me and not really capture what it actually means to me. But to someone who KNOWS? I only have to say that summer beach smell or this reminds me of the docks in winter and they know exactly what I'm talking about....I'll get off MY soapbox now! =]
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Old 01-25-2014, 02:33 PM   #14
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I get what you're saying, but I disagree that "barnyard funk" is a cop out if you aren't familiar with what the smell of horses or barns is. That may not be a descriptor that resonates with you, but for me, I know exactly what someone is getting at when they use it. I can be more specific-and I think we've done a good job elaborating what those more specific aromas and flavors are in this thread-but barnyard is shorthand for all those other things for us. For someone who grew up on the beach, I can TRY to describe what the smells of salt, seaweed, fish, docks, tide pools, suntan lotion, surf wax, fog, sand, tar, rotting sea things, weed, bonfires, etc. mean to me and not really capture what it actually means to me. But to someone who KNOWS? I only have to say that summer beach smell or this reminds me of the docks in winter and they know exactly what I'm talking about....I'll get off MY soapbox now! =]
I can appreciate "barnyard funk" as a method of shorthand, but it doesn't tend to add much to the conversation. It's like saying an IPA is "fruity." Really? What fruit? I can only see using a term like this to describe the intensity of that flavor category ("light barnyard funk") before moving on to more interesting/specific things. As long as that's actually what you're getting. I'd hate for this to become the sour heads' version of "catty."
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alright, this thread inspired me to pull a sample of a pale ale I pitched some wyeast brett b into back in october. All the late hops have been replace with full on "barnyard" and "horse blanket" and a little bit like rotten fruit. Absolutely delicious already.

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I agree with Bryan,
When I first opened a vial of bugfarm I thought it smelled very reminiscent of manure --the aroma then started to smell a little more like silage the longer I had it opened.
Complex indeed!

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