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Old 04-22-2009, 04:13 PM   #1
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Default A stronger Berliner Weiss?

Just curious if anyone has ever brewer a Berliner Weiss type beer, but up'd the starting gravity. I'm curious what the results would be like.

I love the sourness of Berliner Weiss, but don't really want to drink a 2-3% beer.

Lambic's are one option, but I just can't get past the Brett Horsey'ness.

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:56 PM   #2
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I think one reason for the lower gravity is that the lacto will poop out at a fairly low alcohol level and you wont get the sourness you want. I know pedio can handle more alcohol but also will make a tarter beer and you have to worry about diacetyl.

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Old 04-23-2009, 04:19 PM   #3
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Lacto is supposed to be good to around 8%. No reason why it shouldn't work, but let the lacto get it's count up before letting the sach go to work.

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Good to know didnt think it would go that high. Only one way to find out how it will turn out.

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Try making a recipe with 50/50 pale/pilsner malt and wheat malt and about 10 ibu of mash/first wort hops. Do a decoction mash with no or short boil. Pitch the lacto a couple days ahead of the sach. Around 8# of each malt should get you into the 8% range

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Old 04-23-2009, 08:20 PM   #6
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I did a berliner up to a sg of about 1.060 and used the wyeast berliner weisse blend and it turned out fantastic. after about 6 months, the souring got really intense, and it took a little longer than that for the brett to adequately come through, but patience was rewarded.

I think I used about 60%pils and 40% wheat, 1/2 oz noble hops boiled for 5 minutes to sterilize and then aged in the primary for 6 months.

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