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turtle 05-25-2011 01:12 AM

Quick Lambic
 
There's gotta be a quicker way to do this?

Adding sour to a quick fruit beer, or add sour and fruit to a quick ale, or some sort of super bacteria starter that you add wort to...:confused:

milldoggy 05-25-2011 01:13 AM

I pitched a flanders on my 8 month yeast cake from my first lambic, it had a good amount of sour character after a month. Actually kegged it and carbing it now. Nice blend of sweet and sour.

turtle 05-25-2011 01:14 AM

meh...just found this:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/lamb...0/#post1035855

2 months is the quickest turnaround I've ever seen for a lambic, anyone else done similar?

Bobby_M 05-25-2011 01:34 AM

The types of bugs that make a psuedo lambic just don't do their thing quickly. Can you sort of fake it by making a beer sour, sure, but it's not going to be anything like a Lambic. The fastest way to get sour is to add lactic acid.

ReverseApacheMaster 05-25-2011 02:24 AM

You can make a beer sour in under a month.

Lambic isn't just sour. It is a complex blend of flavors. Time is an important ingredient that's hard to avoid. While I am convinced you could make something with some of the right flavors in a month or two it wouldn't be the same. It would be like the difference between a jello no-bake cheesecake and one make from scratch by a pastry chef. Both are enjoyable but the one from scratch will blow the other one away.

turtle 05-25-2011 02:32 AM

considering the cost difference and time commitment involved, those jello cheesecakes are pretty freaking awesome. Sure I can make one from scratch when I have the time and the money..but sometimes swmbo just wants a piece of cheesecake. we're not exactly lambic connoisseurs, so I'm sure we'd be fine with faking it for a while.

Bobby_M 05-25-2011 02:46 AM

Honestly, I think a sour-mashed Berliner Weisse with raspberry syrup during serving would be a pretty good alternative.

skyebrewing 05-25-2011 02:51 AM

My friend requested an apricot beer. Its fermenting right and when done ill add the extract at bottling. Half goes to him, half ill keep and ill add lactic acid to each glass (to taste) to make a sour wheat fruit beer. No it wont be complex, but a fast sour..

dwarven_stout 05-25-2011 03:27 AM

I can make a sour in 4 days.

Pitch Wy3944 or any other similarly explosive yeast, and dump in a bottle of lactic acid when you force carb it.

To borrow a quote: we're not making sour beer, we're making wild ales. It takes time. The quickest true sour would be a berliner wiess or a gose- there are a few recipes up for those, and you can add fruit (or syrup, as Bobby pointed out) to those.

rorygilmore 05-25-2011 08:41 AM

As already noted, lambics take a very long time to become drinkable. I recently tasted 12 different batches of 1-2 month old lambic (homebrew club filled a barrel), and none of them were close to being drinkable yet.

I'd look into a Berliner Weisse or even a Sour Saison as a good alternative to lambic. To get the sourness quickly, use a sour mash, acidulated malt, or just plain ol' latic acid. All of those methods will get you sourness very quickly, but I find that the sour mash produces the best results.

Here's a good blog post on quick(er) sours: http://www.themadfermentationist.com...oud-bruin.html


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