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JoeLindley 01-03-2013 11:01 PM

Plastic bucket, glass carboy or Better Bottle for lambics
 
For those of you who have experience with lambics, do you have any recommendations for what kind of vessel(s) to use? I started my first 5-gal batch in early October with Wyeast 3278. It's been in a plastic bucket since, which makes it 8 weeks so far. I've got glass carboys and I could pick up a Better Bottle if that's what works best.

bradjoiner 01-04-2013 12:58 AM

Better bottles or carboys, plastic bucket's lids rubber gasket seal cant be trusted to be air tight.

AmandaK 01-04-2013 11:55 AM

I would do a plastic bucket for a month (or two in your case) and then transfer into a carboy or Better Bottle.

CDGoin 01-10-2013 10:13 PM

OK.. Would it be OK if you use a bottling bucket as the secondary in a frig for lagering as opposed to a carboy.

I am just not a fan of the carboy.. its heavy, no spout and you have to use a funnel to fill it.. to me it seems like a messy way to do the job.

Why are they popular... ? Is it a matter of "thats the way it has been done" or is there a better reason ?

I will probably just get the Deep Wood SS carboy in the future anyway. But for this batch I was curious, if the 6 gallon bucket would work.. since its not tightly sealed.

bigbeergeek 01-10-2013 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDGoin
OK.. Would it be OK if you use a bottling bucket as the secondary in a frig for lagering as opposed to a carboy.

I am just not a fan of the carboy.. its heavy, no spout and you have to use a funnel to fill it.. to me it seems like a messy way to do the job.

Why are they popular... ? Is it a matter of "thats the way it has been done" or is there a better reason ?

I will probably just get the Deep Wood SS carboy in the future anyway. But for this batch I was curious, if the 6 gallon bucket would work.. since its not tightly sealed.

The small headspace is the main advantage of carboys over buckets and the like. Glass is impermeable to O2, nonreactive and easily cleaned with an array of chemicals.

I fill my carboy with a 1/2'' hose and a pump, personally.

m_stodd 01-10-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDGoin (Post 4771528)
OK.. Would it be OK if you use a bottling bucket as the secondary in a frig for lagering as opposed to a carboy.

I am just not a fan of the carboy.. its heavy, no spout and you have to use a funnel to fill it.. to me it seems like a messy way to do the job.

Why are they popular... ? Is it a matter of "thats the way it has been done" or is there a better reason ?

I will probably just get the Deep Wood SS carboy in the future anyway. But for this batch I was curious, if the 6 gallon bucket would work.. since its not tightly sealed.

You're going to use a funnel to fill your secondary? You're supposed to keep oxygen OUT of beer.

It looks like the best option is the better bottle:
1. It's super light
2. Small opening doesn't matter since if you should use a siphon anyway. Using a funnel with mix in oxygen
3. Why do you need a spigot? Use siphon to go to bottling bucket when bottling, then use spigot from there.

CDGoin 01-10-2013 10:29 PM

I prefer gravity and a spigot.. Put the fermentor up high, and the bucket low.. run the sanitized hose to the bottom of the bucket and slowly transfer.

Thats what I have been doing.. to me it seems easier and no chance of contaminating the beer in any way. Also would keep the splashing down to a minimum. Even the better bottles (Which I just found out about) have spigots.

To many bad experiences siphoning, not with beer.. but none the less..

bovineblitz 01-11-2013 03:10 AM

A tube is better than a funnel, I like 3/8" silicone tubing with a 1/2" autosiphon. Airtight, and you can boil the tubing for sanitation.

I've personally had issues with spigots and never had a problem with siphoning. I even bottle with an autosiphon.

To each their own though, both work fine.

bigbeergeek 01-11-2013 07:52 AM

I prefer gravity, tubing and a clamp. No need for a filthy spigot or a silly autosiphon if you know what you're doing.

CDGoin 01-11-2013 11:05 AM

I boil the spigots prior to re-installing it after cleaning. I also then empty the iodine solution through the spigot as the last stage. Then when I go to use it, I wipe the spigots down with a an rag in iodine solution. Never have had a problem with "a filthy" spigot.

As for transfers just hook up the hose, put other end in the bucket and open the valve. Nothing simpler

And I meant using a funnel for filling the carboy as the primary, not for transferring to the secondary.


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