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Old 05-24-2010, 03:37 AM   #21
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150 is a bit much for a wine corker.
I was looking at a 80 bench top model.
http://www.homebrewit.com/aisle/p/CB6170

any good?

I plan on doing an old bruin this year as well as one more Flanders red.

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Old 05-24-2010, 03:43 AM   #22
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that doesnt do the champagne corks, to do those the corker must squeeze the cork on the sides while pushing down into the bottle, and those are 150$, the one you posted wont do them, it will do the plastic champagne corks, but you can put those in by hand

I used to cork and cage, but its too much $$, now i just cork and cap like cantillon does, its clean looks nice and is cheap

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Old 05-24-2010, 03:50 AM   #23
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that doesnt do the champagne corks, to do those the corker must squeeze the cork on the sides while pushing down into the bottle, and those are 150$, the one you posted wont do them, it will do the plastic champagne corks, but you can put those in by hand

I used to cork and cage, but its too much $$, now i just cork and cap like cantillon does, its clean looks nice and is cheap
I have not had cantilon, i have seen some cuvee with over sized caps like that.
Any regular bottles that will work under such extreme pressure?
I tend to go over board with hobbies, i could see myself buying that type of corker, but 150 seems like a bit much for the 90 bottles i might do every 1.5 years.
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:22 AM   #24
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i started with a plastic gilda corker works great for a few bottles..say 10 or 15 but 15.5 gallons is going to run you about 75 Belgium/ champagne bottles and trust me when i say a crappy plastic corker is going to get old quick!

i use an Italian bench corker costs 100 bucks from more beer and well worth the money...check your local home brew supply many rent quality corkers for less than a crappy plastic one. I have used champagne corks through this corker but it is a bit of a PITA.

http://morewinemaking.com/view_product/6174/103301/Wine_Corker_-_Italian_Table_Top

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Old 05-24-2010, 04:49 AM   #25
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that doesnt do the champagne corks
It does Belgian corks, though. It's a great, great corker/capper.

Couple of tips on using it for Belgian cork+caging:

http://www.slobrewer.com/howto/corking-belgians/2/
http://trilliumbrewing.blogspot.com/2008/12/belgian-quad.html
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It does Belgian corks, though. It's a great, great corker/capper.

Couple of tips on using it for Belgian cork+caging:

http://www.slobrewer.com/howto/corking-belgians/2/
http://trilliumbrewing.blogspot.com/2008/12/belgian-quad.html
hadnt seen that before, having to remove and replace the bottom plate for each bottle seems kinda like a PITA though.....

I like the look of the bottles with cages, but i think doing it is too damn expensive
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It does Belgian corks, though. It's a great, great corker/capper.

Couple of tips on using it for Belgian cork+caging:

http://www.slobrewer.com/howto/corking-belgians/2/
http://trilliumbrewing.blogspot.com/2008/12/belgian-quad.html
great info. that will save me 60.



I may have too get some bottles for my all brett beer im doing this month.
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hadnt seen that before, having to remove and replace the bottom plate for each bottle seems kinda like a PITA though.....

I like the look of the bottles with cages, but i think doing it is too damn expensive
It is a pain and it is pricey. I do a few bottles from certain batches that way that are good as gifts.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:11 AM   #29
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Any regular bottles that will work under such extreme pressure?
Most Trappist bottles are designed to hold a lot more pressure than the standard ~2.5 Vol. Additionally, look for Duvel-type Belgian bottles. There are several brewers who use pretty much identical bottles and they hold a lot of pressure. They are nearly as heavy-duty as champagne bottles.



Additionally, if you're in a bind when it comes time to bottle and run out of bottles / corks / etc, you can put them into soda bottles that you've cleaned well (to remove the smell, mainly). It won't look pretty but it will work!
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:06 AM   #30
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well looks like ill be drinking lots of duvel in the next year or so.
Not that, thats a bad thing.

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