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Old 07-12-2010, 09:35 PM   #1
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Default Help me guess at what I had in this sour culture

Ok, so the super brief version is that I had some additional runnings from a mash that I put in a mason jar. I did not boil it, nor did I add hops. I stuck an unripe tomato from my parents' garden in the jar, rolled it around, and took it out. Then I sealed it up. I'm pretty confident I had some lacto activity, due to the white specs on the surface. A white pellicle developed about three days in and then went away. Two weeks in I added more wort. It smelled like a goat bathed in rotten milk.

I ended up adding this to a 1 gallon batch at the begining of the boil, so I killed whatever I managed to catch. Fermentation ended as usual (I used 1338) and I bottled it two weeks in. I tasted a little. The sour milk pretty much went away, but there is a very clear goat taste.

Any guesses on what is giving me the goat taste? Any guesses on whether the goat taste will mellow out (or become more prominent) over time?


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. . . but there is a very clear goat taste.

Any guesses on what is giving me the goat taste? Any guesses on whether the goat taste will mellow out (or become more prominent) over time?

Goat, hmm sounds barnyardy, maybe brett?http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Brettanomyces

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Goat, hmm sounds barnyardy, maybe brett?http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Brettanomyces

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That's what I was guessing. At least I may have had a mixture of stuff with some brett in it.
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On the otherhand, the reason why I thought it may not be Brett is because it didn't have the same tart flavor I usually taste in beers conditioned with brett or brewed spontaneously. Then again, my experience with sour/wild beers is not very expansive...
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Sour would probably take a year or so, at least a month or so.
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Ok, so the super brief version is that I had some additional runnings from a mash that I put in a mason jar. I did not boil it, nor did I add hops. I stuck an unripe tomato from my parents' garden in the jar, rolled it around, and took it out.
This is the part that confuses me.
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This is the part that confuses me.
I didn't have a lot to choose from. I figured the fuzzy unripe tomato would have caught yeast better than my other options.
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The sour milk pretty much went away, but there is a very clear goat taste.

Any guesses on what is giving me the goat taste? Any guesses on whether the goat taste will mellow out (or become more prominent) over time?
Ok...what exactly does a goat taste like....
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What the hell does a goat taste like?!?!?

And how do you know?
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Like... cooked goat meat? Or a raw , live furry goat running around eating cans and stuff?


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