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Old 01-20-2012, 01:53 PM   #11
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I'm about to brew my first Flanders this weekend, and am wondering. Should I smack the Roesalare pack or not?


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I'm about to brew my first Flanders this weekend, and am wondering. Should I smack the Roesalare pack or not?
Yes. It has been very, very naughty.
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I'm about to brew my first Flanders this weekend, and am wondering. Should I smack the Roesalare pack or not?
Yes. Proves viability, smack early (that's ok) and don't pitch until it bloats.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:21 AM   #14
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I don't really see a need to make a new one to ask the same question when this one's around on the front page.

So, without further a due... this is my recipe and schedule:

For 2.5 gal

3 lbs vienna malt
3 lbs munich malt ~20L
1 lb non-bleached rice flour
2 oz dark belgian candy

1 oz E Kent goldings 5.5% @60 min

single infusion mash 50 min @150*F, fine crush, 1.5 quarts/lb grain

This was my 1st successful stovetop AG experience, BIAB didn't quite work out for me the last time.

Pitched Wyeast california lager (this is also my 1st funky beer so I'm not going for super sour, sour bugs will go into the secondary).

Primary for 10 days in a bucket, then secondary in the designated sour bucket with local wild sour bugs (brett &/or lacto and deffinitely acetobacter that were harvested in that same bucket) for 6 months with cedar chips, fruit addition at 6 months, tertiary for 6 months, (blend if necessary, same recipe with Wyeast thames valley ale yeast fermented for 1 month) rack to bottles & prime, bottle condition for 8 1/2 months. Fruit will be either preserved peaches (if it's sour) or blackberries (if it's not sour enough).

As you can notice I'm trying to keep the sourness on the lower side, I just had a bit of the beer that the wild bugs were harvested from and the acetic acid was so strong that I could feel it burn my throat on the way down; that might have been due to the fact that the bucket that had the wort was kept open for 3 weeks, so the acetobacter had a lot of O2 to work with, the pellicle that formed over the wort probably helped too. Hopefully the PE bucket can keep most of the O2 out and I'll end up with a beer with more funk than sourness.

Comments on the recipe or schedule? Do you think I'm going too far in trying to hold the acetobacter back?
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I'm a little concerned, I smacked it but not much happened.. so I pitched it anyway. Here we are 36 hours later and absolutely no activity. Now I've read it's a notoriously slow starter.. but when do I get worried.
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Try adding some heat. I don't know what you keep your house temp at, but I keep mine in the low to mid 60s in the winter. I typically have to add a decent amount of heat in the beginning for most belgian strains.
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It's at 68 degrees in a ferm chamber.
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Try making it warmer. Try 72. It won't hurt the beer long term. Any sacch esters that are produced at higher temps will utilized by brett and will not end up in the finished beer.
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I did mine a few weeks back took of after about 18 hours. The pack swelled up really nice though.


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