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flyangler18 04-16-2009 02:37 PM

Flanders Red - Dulle Griet
I love me some Rodenbach Grand Cru, and I've been planning a Flanders Red for months and months while I was anxiously awaiting the re-release of the Roeselare blend from Wyeast. Well, I have two packets of this fabled blend in my fridge and I've been trying to formulate a recipe that uses JZ's recipe as a base with my own special touches and flourishes. I was thinking of doing the Raj Apte oak dowel method for micro-oxygenation, but reading some of Michael's postings recently have me thinking I could get the same character using oak cubes.

Not sure if I'm on the right track here, so I'm requesting the usual C/C for this recipe in process.

The name 'Dulle Griet' (Mad Meg) is a Flemish folklore figure who led a group of women to pillage Hell, and painted by Pieter Bruegel the Elder.


Dulle Griet
17-B Flanders Red Ale
Author: Jason Konopinski
Date: 4/15/09


Size: 6.0 gal
Efficiency: 80%
Attenuation: 90%
Calories: 176.01 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.054 (1.048 - 1.057)
Terminal Gravity: 1.005 (1.002 - 1.012)
Color: 15.68 (10.0 - 16.0)
Alcohol: 6.39% (4.6% - 6.5%)
Bitterness: 15.6 (10.0 - 25.0)

8.0 lb Vienna Malt
2 lb Munich Malt
1.0 lb White Wheat Malt
6 oz Belgian Caramunich
4.0 oz Belgian Aromatic
4.0 oz Belgian Special B
1 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
1.0 ea WYeast 3763 Roeselare

00:03:00 Dough-In - Liquor: 3.98 gal; Strike: 169.03 F; Target: 156 F
01:03:00 Saccharification Rest - Rest: 60 min; Final: 156.0 F
02:03:00 Lautering - First Runnings: 0.0 gal sparge @ 154 F, 10.0 min; Sparge #1: 2.54 gal sparge @ 180 F, 10 min; Sparge #3: 2.54 gal sparge @ 180 F, 10 min; Total Runoff: 7.87 gal

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Oldsock 04-16-2009 08:13 PM

Looks tasty to me as is. That said, you will probably have enough melanoidins from the Vienna/Munich that you could drop the aromatic without losing anything. I might also up the caramunich a few ounces to get some more complex sugars for the microbes to chomp on. To me Flanders Reds always have a lot of crystal/cara character to them.

I am also a big proponent of adding some sour beer dregs to supplement the commercial yeast blends. It will help get more complexity and more sourness than the Roeselare will on its own.

Hope that helps, good luck brewing.

killian 04-17-2009 07:03 AM

that recipe looks tasty, I like the vienna as the base I might have to try that.

FireBrewer 04-17-2009 02:00 PM

Looks terrible. :p

Group of women to pillage Hell? That explains a lot.

flyangler18 04-17-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by FireBrewer (Post 1267076)
Looks terrible. :p

Group of women to pillage Hell? That explains a lot.


I'm holding your Roesalare hostage.

FireBrewer 04-17-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by flyangler18 (Post 1267096)
I'm holding your Roesalare hostage.

That's ok, I'll just use the dregs from the bottom of one of your growlers, should come close. :drunk: ;)

Seriously, looks good. Lookin' forward to it.

flyangler18 04-17-2009 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by FireBrewer (Post 1267103)

Seriously, looks good. Lookin' forward to it.

Do you have all the grain for your portion? I was going to get my stuff together tonight and we'll mill at your place tomorrow.

flyangler18 04-19-2009 10:45 PM

Picked up an extra pack of Roeselare, so I'm brewing now. Hit preboil numbers perfectly, just added my hops and boiling away.

It'll be interesting to see how two side-by-side batches compare in a year. :cross:

flyangler18 04-21-2009 07:01 PM

The Saccharomyces in the blend is lifting a gentle krausen right now. It was a bit of a slow starter - but that's what happens when you only pitch the blend sans starter. :D

Making a starter with these multi-strain/microbe blends isn't wise, I think. You'll throw the ratios all out of whack.

Saccharomyces 04-29-2009 03:55 PM

How are you planning on aging this? I was turned off from the idea of doing a Flanders since I thought I had nowhere to store it for aging, but Wild Brews says that they age in oak at up to 90*F. 90*F I can certainly do... My garage holds about that temp all summer long. I'm thinking a 15 gallon food grade barrel, fill it this year to start and then blend 5 gallons into it each year thereafter.

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