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Rys06Tbss 06-03-2013 06:46 PM

First sour
 
After having a dozen or so brews under my belt and having my method figured out, I decided to make a brew that would be aged for a while. I decided to make a Flanders Red, which seems to be the most popular type of sour. Anyhow onto my question

http://rkipping.com/brew/flanders.jpg

I put this in the fermentor yesterday at 7PM. After using my wort chiller, I transfered to my fermentor and noticed all this protein floating. Is this normal? After consulting my LHBS I decided to go with 3522. Im going to pitch the brett c in about a week. So thats about it. I guess Im just a bit concern with all the crap in there since the last time ive seen that much trub was when I was just dumping the boil pot into the fermentor. I did strain all the hops out with a paint strainer as I was filling the fermentor. Thanks in advance

dcHokie 06-03-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rys06Tbss (Post 5245475)
After having a dozen or so brews under my belt and having my method figured out, I decided to make a brew that would be aged for a while. I decided to make a Flanders Red, which seems to be the most popular type of sour. Anyhow onto my question

http://rkipping.com/brew/flanders.jpg

I put this in the fermentor yesterday at 7PM. After using my wort chiller, I transfered to my fermentor and noticed all this protein floating. Is this normal? After consulting my LHBS I decided to go with 3522. Im going to pitch the brett c in about a week. So thats about it. I guess Im just a bit concern with all the crap in there since the last time ive seen that much trub was when I was just dumping the boil pot into the fermentor. I did strain all the hops out with a paint strainer as I was filling the fermentor. Thanks in advance

From what I can tell of the picture and your description, the floating protein doesn't look any different from any other style of beer to me.

On the plan for your Flanders: how do you intend to sour it? The Ardennes strain + Brett C will give it some fruity funk, but won't replicate a sour Flanders Red profile without some souring bacteria. You may want to consider adding Roeselare (Wyeast 3763) or the dregs of a commercial Flanders/Oud Bruin (like Monks or Petrus Pale/Brown).

Rys06Tbss 06-03-2013 07:28 PM

:smack: Well it was my understanding that the Brett C would have performed the task :smack: I guess Im an idiot then. How many bottle dregs do you think I would need?

dcHokie 06-03-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rys06Tbss (Post 5245586)
:smack: Well it was my understanding that the Brett C would have performed the task :smack: I guess Im an idiot then. How many bottle dregs do you think I would need?

It depends on how viable the dregs are, but you could probably get away with as little as one bottle depending on how long you plan to age the beer. Of course, in the name of research, you may want to add several bottles worth :o...

TNGabe 06-03-2013 10:06 PM

Did you use corn? The only time I've ever had a protein blob like that was from racking kettle trub over was with a lot of corn in the recipe. I think I usually do 20% corn in my sour reds.

Jolly Pumpkin is a good beer to add dregs from, too. Their Flanders style La Roja is tasty.

Rys06Tbss 06-03-2013 10:11 PM

No corn used here.

Rys06Tbss 06-04-2013 03:03 PM

This fermentation is uber violent. That's some mighty happy yeast. This carboy looks like its swollen.

Rys06Tbss 06-05-2013 03:15 PM

How much head space is required after the bugs are pitched? I have a 5 gallon glass fermenter but since this batch is at 5.5 gallons I might have to do something different. Or could I just pitch the bugs in the primary with the brett

dcp27 06-05-2013 04:49 PM

you don't need any headspace, there won't be another krausen, just far & few bubbles & maybe a pellicle if there is enough air inside. I prefer getting the bugs in asap, otherwise it takes too long to get sour enough. If it will be staying in this vessel for the long haul id add them with the brett, if you plan on transferring soon, i'd wait til then

Rys06Tbss 06-05-2013 04:53 PM

It started at 1.070. Its at 1.050 after 3 days. I was going to wait and pitch the Brett on Sunday. Unless you think I should just do it now. I can pitch dregs on at any given moment right?


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