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Old 06-13-2012, 12:22 PM   #41
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If you have access to Russian River sours, you can use the dregs from the bottles to add to secondary to get similar results. You don't really need the chunk of barrel.
I was contemplating doing a Westy 12 clone with a pitch of RR dregs in secondary. Well... RR or possibly Orval since it's infinitely easier to source on the East coast... but I'd really like to do RR.
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:08 PM   #42
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Just ordered this kit last night. I've heard great things about the "real" version and it's impossible to get in Pennsylvania, so brewing my own is the next best thing! Looking forward to it!
Yea you can pretty much get it whenever you want in Philly and the surrounding suburbs.
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Old 06-13-2012, 02:36 PM   #43
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I was contemplating doing a Westy 12 clone with a pitch of RR dregs in secondary. Well... RR or possibly Orval since it's infinitely easier to source on the East coast... but I'd really like to do RR.
I've never had a westy, but it's not a sour beer. Consecration is. Unless I'm misunderstanding your intentions, RR dregs would ruin a Westy clone.
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I've never had a westy, but it's not a sour beer. Consecration is. Unless I'm misunderstanding your intentions, RR dregs would ruin a Westy clone.
I wanted to turn it into a sour.
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One thing that confuses me is the note on the site says: "You will need to purchase a yeast for primary (we recommend Abbey Ale), Brettanomyces for the souring/aging process," Then the body of the description mentions to buy roselare yeast. Wouldn't the barrel chunks have the bug on them? Why do we need to buy separate bugs if the barrel chunks already have the bugs on them?

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I don't think the barrel chunks have anything viable in it. They might, but I wouldn't count on it. I think the barrel thing is more marketing than actually getting the RR bugs.

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I don't think the barrel chunks have anything viable in it. They might, but I wouldn't count on it. I think the barrel thing is more marketing than actually getting the RR bugs.
I just added oak and got pretty close with my clone. Roeselare. I'll probably give it another try in the fall (I've got a ton of it that needs drinking... )

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I just added oak and got pretty close with my clone. Roeselare. I'll probably give it another try in the fall (I've got a ton of it that needs drinking... )
Congrats, also I'm both jealous and envious
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I just added oak and got pretty close with my clone. Roeselare. I'll probably give it another try in the fall (I've got a ton of it that needs drinking... )
To clarify, I didn't mean that the beer doesn't benefit from the oak; there's just probably nothing special about using the oak in the kit versus any other oak at Morebeer except you can tell people you aged your clone on RR barrel wood.
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I may be wrong. But I'm pretty sure the bacteria can survive I'm the oak, as long as you don't heat it up

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