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Old 02-07-2006, 09:37 PM   #1
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Has anyone ever tried to clone Yuengling's Black & Tan? I realize this probably requires 2 batches as it is a mix of their porter and premium (pilsener) beer. I was just wondering if it would make sense to brew a porter, ferment, then rack 50/50 into separate secondaries and start over with the pilsener. I'm not setup to even try anything like this yet (I have 0 Carboys as of now), but would love to clone a Black & Tan in the future.

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Old 02-07-2006, 09:44 PM   #2
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You've kind of got the right idea...you need to brew a porter/stout and a lager/pale ale and take them both to completion separately, as in bottled/kegged separately. You would then pour the black & tan using a bottle of each (or from the tap).

Now I realize Yuengling bottles theirs as one mixture...if you really wanted to go that route you would still ferment to completion separately (don't mix the batches in the fermenter IMO) and then during bottling put half of each into a bottle.

If you try to mix them in the fermenter, wouldn't they just stratify like they do in a glass? Beats me. I always though b&t's screwed up the flavor of my stout (or my ale, depending on your perspective).

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I don't know about brewing a black and tan rather than just making one the old fashioned way, but i can add that I drank several thousand yuengling lagers in college and it is still my favorite domestic "session" beer.

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Does anybody have a Yuengling clone recipe?

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Old 02-07-2006, 10:12 PM   #5
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Ok, so now I'm envisioning 2 bottling buckets with hoses running into a "Y" and then to a bottling wand. I wonder how well that would work to make sure equal portions. I might actually give this a shot sometime. I'm sure the parts could be obtained from Menards/Home Depot.

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Don't have a recipe, but I did just get a 12er of YBandT dropped off from a friend that was driving through PA. I love it.

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Funny, this is my dad's favorite beer.. I could easily turn him onto some more highend stuff but why.. he is so happy with such a good downhome cheap beer. Myself, I love their lager too.. mmmm plain great no frills beer for the price of clydesdale piss!

My feeling about black and tan's is this... traditionally you pour two beers into one nice, tall pilsner class and end up with two pretty much seperate layers. It is quite tasty.. rich but no so much that you can't have another... it's also a versatile technique for the homebrewer because you need only brew and bottle two batches in order to have 3 different kinds of beer ready to go! But when the black and tan comes premixed it is, in my thinking at least, a medium to light bodied porter. Sure, you could just brew a porter and come pretty close to the black and tan effect but you lose something in the process. If you go to the trouble to brew two batches then at least bottle them seperately - you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Next time you're at the bar ask the barkeep to mix up a black and tan with some yuengling and guiness.. see how you feel about the results....

Whatever you chose to do, let me know how it turns out. I'd love to brew a batch for dear old dad. He sure did love it last time I came home with a case of homebrew for him.

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Funny, this is my dad's favorite beer.. I could easily turn him onto some more highend stuff but why.. he is so happy with such a good downhome cheap beer. Myself, I love their lager too.. mmmm plain great no frills beer for the price of clydesdale piss!

My feeling about black and tan's is this... traditionally you pour two beers into one nice, tall pilsner class and end up with two pretty much seperate layers. It is quite tasty.. rich but no so much that you can't have another... it's also a versatile technique for the homebrewer because you need only brew and bottle two batches in order to have 3 different kinds of beer ready to go! But when the black and tan comes premixed it is, in my thinking at least, a medium to light bodied porter. Sure, you could just brew a porter and come pretty close to the black and tan effect but you lose something in the process. If you go to the trouble to brew two batches then at least bottle them seperately - you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Next time you're at the bar ask the barkeep to mix up a black and tan with some yuengling and guiness.. see how you feel about the results....
I totally agree--make your own black and tans. Buy a cool Brutul to mix them. Lost is right--you'll potentially have 3 good beers around if you don't premix it.

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Does anybody have a Yuengling clone recipe?
Instead of trying to brew a lager--I'd go with a nice cream ale recipe--it'll get you very close to a "Yeungling clone" type beer.
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I totally agree--make your own black and tans. Buy a cool Brutul to mix them. Lost is right--you'll potentially have 3 good beers around if you don't premix it.
I bought one of those last year from Austin Homebrew to get a marginal order > $60...they're way cool! I never drink b&t's, but the brutul is a cool bottle opener by itself, and I use it to make b&t's at parties as a parlor trick.
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I need one of those. I could watch the video all night.....
But here is my favorite page... so many ideas


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