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Old 06-06-2012, 07:00 PM   #1
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Ok, winter warmer recipe idea. Adding following spices to beer in secondary. anise vanilla, allspice, juniper. Any that don't go well or are extremely strong?

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
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All in one beer? Seems a bit muddled to me... Especially the anise & juniper together. What's the base beer style?

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:13 PM   #3
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All in one beer? Seems a bit muddled to me... Especially the anise & juniper together. What's the base beer style?
Yeah, all in one beer; the anise and juniper were my wild cards that I am Leary of. I am leaning more toward star anise

Mostly two row, some Munich, still determining base beer
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:37 AM   #4
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Rethinking the base beer; and looking at two row and english caramel

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Old 06-07-2012, 02:55 AM   #5
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Finally sat down and made a recipe using hopville. Looking for feedback.
http://hopville.com/recipe/1424099/c...iced-christmas

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Old 06-07-2012, 11:16 AM   #6
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I checked out your recipe and I like your hop selections and the use of the Scottish Ale yeast--i've had good results with that myself.

There are two red flags in my mind, however: the C60 and the amount of spices.

Personally, I find C60 to be a bit overwhelming above 5% in a highly-hopped IPA which has all the hop flavor to counterbalance the caramel notes. Some people will go as high as 10% and like it, I know. I can't imagine what 30% would be like, especially in a fairly light (by which I mean not a porter or stout) ale.

Along similar lines, I think that 4 vanilla beans will blow out most of the other flavors in your beer. Most posts in here about the beans say 1 or at most 2 in 5 gallons will give you more than enough flavor.

When I made my spice beer last fall (it was basically an American Brown base), I ended up with 1/4 tsp of cinnamon, and 1/8 tsp each of ginger, cloves, and nutmeg, plus 1.5 tsp of high quality vanilla extract. Even those low amounts in 5 gal were too strong at first but after a month or so really hit the perfect note.

Just my experience--hope it helps some. YMMV.

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Sierra Nevada uses english caramel and two row pale ale as their grains in their celebration, which is why I chose C60. Would it be better to add other grains or and decrease C60 or just change ratio of C60 and 2 row or change to c45?

As for vanilla, I think I could do well with two vanilla beans with the strong spices of star anise and all spice.

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Any thoughts on making it 12# 2 row pale ale, 1# caramel 45, and .4 oz debittered black patent (for color). Also added a bit of cloves (discussing spice combinations with my sous chef brother)

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Any thoughts on making it 12# 2 row pale ale, 1# caramel 45, and .4 oz debittered black patent (for color). Also added a bit of cloves (discussing spice combinations with my sous chef brother)
This sounds excellent. There's no reason not to stick with the C60, by the way, but I think 1# is entirely reasonable and the cloves would be awesome. In fact, you've inspired me to add the star anise for my holiday beer this year I hope you'll post your findings on that since I've not used it before.

The debittered black patent sounds good too; if you can't find it you might use Carafa III which is de-husked so you get color without the tannic bitterness. (Maybe they're the same thing?)

I look forward to hearing how this comes out & what tweaks you might make for the future!
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:34 PM   #10
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Bought all the grains and am brewing tonight. Went with 1# C60 and 1/4# black patent. 12# two role pale F&M Forgot lhbs does not carry Wyeast so it is going to be white labs Scottish. Spices solidified, but need to finalize ratios.

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