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Old 01-14-2013, 05:55 PM   #1
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Default Wild Rice and Wild Hops APA

My parents retired to Minnesota and brought back some wild hops that grow on their property for use in a brew. The smell intensely citrusy/grapefruity when crushed in the hand, really awesome. I was thinking of brewing up an APA with them and making it even more Minnesotan with some wild rice for a nutty backbone. I want the rice and hops to take center stage.

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Loon Song APA

5.5 gal

Est
OG: 1.061
FG: 1.015
IBU: 40-45
SRM: 9-10

9.25 lbs 2 row
1 lb Crystal 60
1.5 lbs Wild rice (pre-cereal mashed for 30-45 min with .375 lbs 2 row)

Mash 150 degrees for 60 min

~.75-1 oz Magnum for 40 IBU aa2 60 min
1.5 oz leaf wild hops @ 10 min
.5 oz leaf wild hops @ flameout

WLP007 with starter (will use cake from this one for a Barleywine next session)

Ferment @ 65 degrees for 7 days (or until done)
Secondary 14 days

Let me know what you think. I only have the 2 oz. I could dry hop and use some other flavor hop, but I'd rather see what the flavor is like and rely on their leftover aroma and the malt/rice nuttiness. The crystal malt is in there for color and because I've heard WLP007 can really dry out the beer without it. I'm going on the stronger/hoppier side of APA so they can let it cellar in the basement and drink at their leisure.

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Old 01-18-2013, 03:12 PM   #2
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I may cut back on the rice. After reading Mosher's book I really wanted to use it myself, so I made a 6 gallon batch of an ESB with 1 lb of wild rice (which was damn expensive). It turned out quite bad -the 'nuttiness', which I wouldn't quite say was just nutty, but earthy and weird, really overwhelmed the flavor of the beer. One of my buddies really liked the flavor so I just gave him the whole batch.

You may like the flavor, but I may tone it back a bit just so I can really appreciate the hops and their wild flavors.

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Thanks for the reply!

I ended up using 1 lb. We'll see what they think of the flavor.

The Whole Foods near me sells wild harvested (not paddy) Canadian lake wild rice for $12/lb which is a really awesome price I think.

This was a one-off brew. I doubt I'll ever do it or a cereal mash again.

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I may cut back on the rice. After reading Mosher's book I really wanted to use it myself, so I made a 6 gallon batch of an ESB with 1 lb of wild rice (which was damn expensive). It turned out quite bad -the 'nuttiness', which I wouldn't quite say was just nutty, but earthy and weird, really overwhelmed the flavor of the beer. One of my buddies really liked the flavor so I just gave him the whole batch.

You may like the flavor, but I may tone it back a bit just so I can really appreciate the hops and their wild flavors.
It's funny, but I was going to say to increase the wild rice!

I have a couple of friends who make wild rice beers, and I like them. One friend made a cream ale (Spotted Cow clone) and added a pound of wild rice. Another runs a brewpub, and he uses 30% wild rice in his wild rice lager.

I harvest wild rice each fall (lots of work!) and still haven't made a beer for myself, though.
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I just took a little taste test/smell/Gravity reading 4 days in. I scorched the cereal mash a little and wanted to see if I was going to get ashtray. So far no burned notes at all. We'll see when it dries out and carbs. 1.062OG to 1.022 now.

WLP007 @ 66-67degrees + wild rice + wild hops are giving this a pleasant flowery/earthy/mango/passion fruit aroma. Unlike anything I've ever had or smelled.

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if you have more hops why not dry hop?

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I wish I could, but I'm out. If they like it, they can harvest more next fall.

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Sounds pretty cool, keep us updated! Love the name too.

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This sounds like a really cool hop to mess around with! I may break into your parents house and steal a cutting/rhizome.

I have started breeding hops myself and I've gotten one or two nice earthy British varieties... Lots of generic bitterness and vegetal.

I'm working towards getting a fruit bomb!

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