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Old 09-22-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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I have always been a whole leaf hop kinda guy. I just like the way they look. In recent times I have never had anything clog. Last wknd I used 2 oz of Centennial pellets and 1 oz of whole leaf. Well I clogged. Since I remain in PM limbo(keggle issues), I pour my 3 gallons of wort through a large stainer and funnel into the carboys. I have had as much as 4 ozs of whole hops and never an issue. This time the sucker clogged about halfway through pouring the wort.
I don't think I'll use pellets again. I read about keggles clogging all the time so I gotta think whole leaf is the way to go. I am sure you have your reasons for using them but I am all for simplicity and I get that from whole leaf.

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Old 09-22-2008, 04:37 PM   #2
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I don't' filter out the pellets, so they are a good low cost and very efficient alternative for me. I do love the feel and look of a whole leaf hop though.

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I use pellets because they travel and preserve better, and also I get better utilization which potentially saves me some dough. I whirlpool in my keggle and never have a problem with lots of hop material.

Leaves would be nice if I had a low cost supply that I was sure of the quality and freshness.

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It appears that money is the main reason. I can certainly understand trying to save money. I just love looking at the whole hops and not getting things all clogged up.

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I only use pellets (it's all I can get) and I've never had a problem with clogging. But then my gear has been designed from the start to use pellets. Yours has obviously been designed to work best with leaf hops - it's not unreasonable that you'd have trouble switching to a different form without any modifications.

I had similar problems when I switched from my longtime corona-style mill to my monster mill. My efficiency didn't change at all (high 80's) but the crush from the roller mill was different enough that my existing manifold would get stuck whereas I'd never had even a single stuck sparge with my corona-style. So I adjusted my manifold to work with the different crush and I was back in business.

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I have always used pellets. Built my gear around them. Never been stuck by them but, now I grow my own and will be making the change permamanent. Fortunately, since my system is designed for pellets I should have any issue with leaf and can switch based on what is available and combine.

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I only use pellets (it's all I can get) and I've never had a problem with clogging. But then my gear has been designed from the start to use pellets. Yours has obviously been designed to work best with leaf hops - it's not unreasonable that you'd have trouble switching to a different form without any modifications.

I had similar problems when I switched from my longtime corona-style mill to my monster mill. My efficiency didn't change at all (high 80's) but the crush from the roller mill was different enough that my existing manifold would get stuck whereas I'd never had even a single stuck sparge with my corona-style. So I adjusted my manifold to work with the different crush and I was back in business.
I didn't realize this. What do whole hops clog up? I am using a corona mill and plan to change to a different mill. Looks like some modification might be in order. I am currently working on a keggle build(when my welder "fits" me in). Which manifolds work with pellets or whole leaf? I use a ss braid for the mash tun and plan on using a scrubby for the dip tube in the new keggle.
Why can't you get whole hops?? Canada? Do you want me to smuggle you a few
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I have always used pellets. Built my gear around them. Never been stuck by them but, now I grow my own and will be making the change permamanent. Fortunately, since my system is designed for pellets I should have any issue with leaf and can switch based on what is available and combine.
What is the design difference? Since I am almost exclusively whole hops I don't want to get stuff that won't work for my needs. See my previous post for my gravity system. Thanks
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I have always been a whole leaf hop kinda guy. I just like the way they look. In recent times I have never had anything clog. Last wknd I used 2 oz of Centennial pellets and 1 oz of whole leaf. Well I clogged. Since I remain in PM limbo(keggle issues), I pour my 3 gallons of wort through a large stainer and funnel into the carboys. I have had as much as 4 ozs of whole hops and never an issue. This time the sucker clogged about halfway through pouring the wort.
I don't think I'll use pellets again. I read about keggles clogging all the time so I gotta think whole leaf is the way to go. I am sure you have your reasons for using them but I am all for simplicity and I get that from whole leaf.
I prefer the whole hop to the pellets because they help form a filter bed at the bottom the keg when draining the wort out. They do cost a little more because the utilization is about 15 percent less than pellet but I don't mind the extra cost.
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I pour my 3 gallons of wort through a large stainer and funnel into the carboys. I have had as much as 4 ozs of whole hops and never an issue. This time the sucker clogged about halfway through pouring the wort.
I either rack straight from the kettle(with a paint strainer) if im using dry yeast. Or if it needs to be aerated, I put a paint strainer in a five gallon bucket and pour into that, remove strainer, then funnel into carboy. Never any problems with pellet hops.
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