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Old 03-11-2007, 03:53 PM   #1
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I brewed some beer last night, but I have no idea what to call it.

Here's what I did:

Style: Bock
Type: Extract w/grain Size: 6.0 gallons
Color: 22 HCU (~12 SRM)
Bitterness: 21 IBU
OG: 1.061 FG: 1.018
Alcohol: 5.6% v/v (4.4% w/w)

Grain: 1 lb. American Munich
.5 lb. American crystal 10L
1 lb. American crystal 20L
.25 lb. Belgian Special B

Boil: minutes SG 1.049 7.5 gallons
6 lb. Light dry malt extract
1 lb. Honey

Hops: 1 oz. Fuggles (4.75% AA, 60 min.)
1 oz. Kent Goldings (5% AA, 15 min.)

More or less those were just a bunch of ingredients I had laying around that sounded good.

The volume came out higher than I expected. I started with a little too much water, plus not as much boiled off as I planned. So this brought down my OG and color a little bit. I pitched an active starter of WL013 London Ale yeast, and it started to show a little pressure in the airlock just hours later. This morning it's bubbling away happily.

I was gonna call it a Bock, but the OG came out low due to it being a little watered down.

So....what style of beer would you call this? I might just say Honey Brown?

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Old 03-11-2007, 04:17 PM   #2
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That's an ESB, no question.

http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/Category8.html#style8C

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I most whole-heartedly disagree.

If you used a Bock (Lager) yeast, then it is not an ESB.

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I most whole-heartedly disagree.

If you used a Bock (Lager) yeast, then it is not an ESB.

Disagree all you want. Read the post.

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I pitched an active starter of WL013 London Ale yeast, and it started to show a little pressure in the airlock just hours later. This morning it's bubbling away happily.
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I stand corrected then. I guess I just misunderstood why he was calling it a Bock in the first place.


Anyway, the IBU's are uncharacteristically low for a Special or Extra Special Bitter. They'd be on target for an ordinary bitter, but the OG is too high for that. It's closer, in style, to a mild... except, again, for the higher OG. So I would call it a Brown Ale.

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Bitterness is a little low for an ESB, isn't it? I just made my first ESB receipe yesterday, and I thought it needed at least 30 IBUs. The rest of the recipe looks very ESB-ish, just a little light in that regard, unless I'm insane.
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Yeah, you guys are probably right about the IBUs. I didn't run the bitterness numbers, I just saw all those english hops and the OG and thought ESB. What does that come out to anyway?

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21 IBUs, as per the OP.

What WAS the OG? If it was down around 1048, you might get away with calling it a Special Bitter (not an ESB), although the hops are still a *little* light. It's definately in that ballpark, but you may have just missed the category guidelines by a bit.

You know what you should call it?

Beer.

Hopefully, DAMN GOOD BEER.

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Yeah, you guys are probably right about the IBUs. I didn't run the bitterness numbers, I just saw all those english hops and the OG and thought ESB. What does that come out to anyway?

Read the post. It says 21 IBU's.

The two crystal malts are perhaps a little light for a brown ale, but I'm not familiar with Belgian Special B.

I'm still going with an English Brown, until someone convinces me otherwise.
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Read the post. It says 21 IBU's.

The two crystal malts are perhaps a little light for a brown ale, but I'm not familiar with Belgian Special B.

I'm still going with an English Brown, until someone convinces me otherwise.
Northern English can have a little bit of hop aroma, so if that's an apt description, it could fit in there. Bitterness is about right, color is probably around right (we don't know how diluted). OG is still a question, think Northern English tend to max out in the low 1050s.
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