The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Wet Cascade Hops Recipe

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-01-2012, 02:50 AM   #1
lucasweb
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21
Default Wet Cascade Hops Recipe

I'm brewing a Fresh Hopped Pale Ale tomorrow and wanted to see what you guys thought about the recipe.

It's a simple Extract based recipe (see below) which I've had a lot of success with when brewing pale ales, what I'm less sure about is the hop profile.

Does the amount of fresh cascade hops I'm using look about right at flame out and for dry hopping. Do you think the Amarillo is going to get lost with all of the Cascade or do you think some of it's flavor/aroma is going to come through with the cascade?

The recipe is a partial boil, I'll be topping up with a couple of gallons of water. The hop amounts and the calculated IBU take this into account.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

3.5 Gallon Batch

Fermentables

US Caramel 60L Malt 1.00 lb 16.7 % 15.1 Steeped
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 1.00 lb 16.7 % 0.8 Start Of Boil
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 2.00 lb 33.3 % 1.5 End Of Boil
Extract - Amber Dried Extract 2.00 lb 33.3 % 5.3 End Of Boil

OG 1.056
FG 1.013

Hops

German Northern Brewer 10.6 % 0.50 oz 60 mins
US Amarillo 9.2 % 0.35 oz 15 mins
Fresh Cascade 1.0 % 7.00 oz Flame out
Fresh Cascade 1.0 % 5.00 oz Dry-Hopped

IBU 38

__________________
lucasweb is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-01-2012, 05:32 AM   #2
Calder
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,398
Liked 236 Times on 211 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I think 0.35 ozs of Amarillo at 15 minutes would be hard to detect if it was the only hop in the recipe. I would drop it altogether, and just try to highlight the Cascade in a harvest ale.

Personal preference; I think you have too much crystal. The amber malt will have some. I would cut it down to 0.5 lbs.

Where did you get the 1.056 from? I think you are closer to 1.070 for 3.5 gallons.

I would probably switch out a LB of DME for sugar to help lower the FG.

__________________
Calder is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-01-2012, 04:09 PM   #3
lucasweb
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21
Default

Ok, I tweaked the recipe based on your suggestions (see below). I dropped the amount of Amber DME and Crystal and replaced with sugar. I also dropped the Amarillo.

3.5 Gallon Batch

Fermentables

US Caramel 60L Malt 0.5 lb 9.5 % 7.5 Steeped
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 1.00 lb 19 % 0.8 Start Of Boil
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 2.00 lb 38.1 % 1.5 End Of Boil
Extract - Amber Dried Extract 1.00 lb 19 % 2.6 End Of Boil
Sugar 0.75 lb 14.3 % 0 End Of Boil

OG 1.053
FG 1.009

Hops

German Northern Brewer 10.6 % 0.70 oz 60 mins
Fresh Cascade 1.0 % 7.00 oz Flame out
Fresh Cascade 1.0 % 5.00 oz Dry-Hopped

IBU 41

The numbers all come from BeerAlchemy. I also double checked using a separate online calculator and they matched.

__________________
lucasweb is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-01-2012, 11:58 PM   #4
SouthBay
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 465
Liked 23 Times on 21 Posts

Default

Wet hops carry only a fraction of the hop oils by weight of dried hops. Keep in mind it typically takes 3-4 oz of wet hops to equal 1 oz of dry. Flavor, aroma, and IBUs follow accordingly.

__________________

we blessed your skin
we blessed you with our mark
become a part of the klok
become a gear

SouthBay is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2012, 12:17 AM   #5
Calder
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,398
Liked 236 Times on 211 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthBay View Post
Wet hops carry only a fraction of the hop oils by weight of dried hops. Keep in mind it typically takes 3-4 oz of wet hops to equal 1 oz of dry. Flavor, aroma, and IBUs follow accordingly.
I have a feeling he is aware of this, since he is using 7 ozs at flame out and 5 ozs as dry hops.
__________________
Calder is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2012, 12:21 AM   #6
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upper Michigan
Posts: 60,044
Liked 4202 Times on 3059 Posts
Likes Given: 779

Default

I'd leave out the amber malt, and use only light extract and the .5 pound of crystal.

For hops I'd use the bittering hops at 60 minutes, and then use the wet cascade hops at 15 minutes, 5 minutes, and dryhop.

I'd go with 5 ounces at 15, 5 ounces at 5, and then remainder (if you only have 2 ounces left) at dryhopping.

__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2012, 12:29 AM   #7
SouthBay
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 465
Liked 23 Times on 21 Posts

Default

Ha I read the 1%, and thought it said one ounce! My mistake!

__________________

we blessed your skin
we blessed you with our mark
become a part of the klok
become a gear

SouthBay is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-24-2012, 06:44 PM   #8
lucasweb
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21
Default

The beer turned out pretty well in the end it definitely had the fresh hop flavor I was going for even though I didn't have as many fresh hops as I hopped so I had to use some pellet hops as well. Below is the final recipe:

Fermentables

US Caramel 60L Malt 0.50 lb 10.0 % In Mash/Steeped
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 1.00 lb 20.0 % Start Of Boil
Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 2.00 lb 40.0 % End Of Boil
Sugar - Corn Sugar/Dextrose (Dry) 0.50 lb 10.0 % End Of Boil
Pilsen Light Dried Extract 0.50 lb 10.0 % End Of Boil
Sparkling Amber Dried Extract 0.50 lb 10.0 % End Of Boil


Hops

German Northern Brewer 10.6 % 0.50 oz All Of Boil
US Cascade 'Wet' 1.0 % 1.00 oz 15 Min From End
US Amarillo 9.2 % 0.10 oz 15 Min From End
US Cascade 'Wet' 1.0 % 2.20 oz 5 Min From End
US Amarillo 9.2 % 0.20 oz 5 Min From End
US Amarillo 9.2 % 0.20 oz At turn off
US Cascade 'Wet' 1.0 % 2.00 oz Dry-Hopped
US Amarillo 9.2 % 0.50 oz Dry-Hopped
US Cascade 4.5 % 0.50 oz Dry-Hopped

Yeast:

DCL US-05 (formerly US-56) SafAle

O.G 1.049
F.G 1.009

__________________
lucasweb is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I'm looking for a good SMaSH recipe with light LME and cascade hops. badbrew Recipes/Ingredients 21 04-11-2012 09:59 PM
Recipe wanted for Cascade hops SirBrewsAlot Recipes/Ingredients 16 03-22-2012 05:14 PM
Will using Centennial instead of Cascade for aroma hops work in this recipe? msa8967 Recipes/Ingredients 6 10-16-2011 03:36 AM
Recipe Help - Cascade/nugget hops longneck Recipes/Ingredients 1 02-21-2011 01:51 AM
Cascade from another place - (Argentine Cascade Hops) andypenning Recipes/Ingredients 4 08-10-2008 02:11 PM