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Old 10-14-2010, 03:26 PM   #1
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Can anyone point me in the direction of a good traditional welsh bitter recipe? Thanks

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Old 10-14-2010, 03:27 PM   #2
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Nope.... but I am very interested in what you find out though!

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Old 10-14-2010, 03:40 PM   #3
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I need to email one of the brewer's in wales and maybe they will help out

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Old 10-14-2010, 10:42 PM   #4
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This is my modification of a recipe from a Protz book based on Felinfoel Brewery's Double Dragon Ale. I have brewed this many times and the beer never fails to please. London Ale yeast (WL-013/WY1028) is my choice although your favorite UK strain will do nicely. Simple British mash @ 66C/151F.

10 Gallons

12 lbs British Pale Malt
.5 lb British Crystal 55L
1 lb Torrified Wheat
1 lb Sugar

60 Minute Hops:
1 oz Challenger
.5 oz Bramling Cross
.5 oz WGV (Whitbread Goldings Varieties)

15 Minute Hops:
.5 oz WGV

Est OG 1.045
Est IBU 28

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Old 10-15-2010, 04:30 AM   #5
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Thanks ed. When are you adding the sugar? Full boil?

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Old 10-16-2010, 12:37 PM   #6
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Thanks ed. When are you adding the sugar? Full boil?
I usually toss it in for the last 10 minutes.
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Old 10-16-2010, 04:05 PM   #7
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Thanks cheers

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I usually toss it in for the last 10 minutes.
HAve you ever done it without the sugar? What impact does that have (other than the obvious)?
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:12 PM   #9
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I love Double Dragon Ale, but I cannot find it anywhere. I'd love to brew a clone, but I do not have the equipment for 10 Gallon batch, especially not an all grain batch. How's this for an extract approximation? Is anyone good at these conversions? I cut out the sugar. What was it doing for the beer beyond adding alcohol?

6 lb. William's Brittish Pale Malt Extract Syrup
3 oz. Wheat Spray DME
4 oz. British Crystal 55L

60 mins
0.75 Challenger
0.5 Whitbread Golding

15 mins
0.25 Whitbread Golding

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I love Double Dragon Ale, but I cannot find it anywhere. I'd love to brew a clone, but I do not have the equipment for 10 Gallon batch, especially not an all grain batch. How's this for an extract approximation? Is anyone good at these conversions? I cut out the sugar. What was it doing for the beer beyond adding alcohol?

6 lb. William's Brittish Pale Malt Extract Syrup
3 oz. Wheat Spray DME
4 oz. British Crystal 55L

60 mins
0.75 Challenger
0.5 Whitbread Golding

15 mins
0.25 Whitbread Golding
The sugar is a common adjunct in lots of UK ales. There's nothing wrong with it when used in discrete quantities. It's not there to boost the alcohol as it's already figured into the OG. The sugar will give a slightly drier finish and better attenuation. The attentuation help will be even more apparent with an extract recipe. For an extract version I'd use dry extract for the base if you can get it and I'd use a full pound of wheat extract. That will give you roughly a half pound of wheat equivalent, about right for five gallons.
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