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Old 05-17-2006, 03:54 AM   #1
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Default Weizenbock Extract Recipe Ideas

Where to start?

5 gal Partial mash
6-7 lbs wheat LME
+/- 1lb melanoidin
+/- 1lb Light crystal
1.2-4 oz hallertauer or simliar for 60 min
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Here is one I brewed all-grain:

9# wheat
2.25# munich
2.15# pilsner
1.63# caramunich

5.5 HBU Hersbrucker @ 60
1.4 HBU Hersbrucker @ 15

Wyeast 3068

I don't think it translates that well to an extract recipe, but if I had to guess (and I do) I'd say

7.5 - 8# wheat DME
Mini-mash:
1# munich
1# pilsner
1.5# caramunich (45)

And you may need to bump up the bittering hops 15-20% if you're doing a partial boil. You want ~17-19 IBU's total.

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Here's one from a previous post by walker-san

This is stolen from The Complete Joy of Home Brewing by Charlie Papazian. It's a darker brew because of the grains used.

Phat Fired Weizenbock

1 lb crystal malt
1/4 lb chocolate malt
1/4 lb caraffe malt (debittered black malt)

3.3 lbs light extract syrup
3.3 lbs wheat extract syrup
1.5 lbs amber dry extract

1.5 oz spalt hops for 60 minutes
1 oz santiam hops for 5 minutes
1 oz santiam hops for 2 minutes

German Wheat yeast

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so for the sake of easy ordering:
4 wheat lme
4 light lme
1 crystal
.5 chocolate (i have this around)
1 of some amber malt

1.5 bitter
1 flavor
1 aroma (do these varieties really matter? what AA% are spalt/santiam) I ask because I have a few oz of halertauer around)

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so for the sake of easy ordering:
4 wheat lme
4 light lme
1 crystal
.5 chocolate (i have this around)
1 of some amber malt
Most wheat extracts are blend of wheat and two row so skip the light lme and double up the wheat lme. I did a weizenbock earlier this year with 60% wheat malt, 40% dark munich, 1.100 gravity. Besides the fact of just having 55# of dark munich on hand and no pilsner, it allowed me to obtain an amber color and some additional maltiness/sweetness without the addition of crystal. I tried one after two weeks in the bottle to get an idea how it turned out. Bad idea, drinking it young is like eating a crunchy green banana.
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Cool - 8lbs of Wheat LME and a handful of specialty grains and away we go.
Hop ideas? I like sweeter Bockier for lack of a better term beers as opposed to my hop is bigger than yours flavors.

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Any of the noble German hops should work and be traditional...they're generally low in bitterness and higher in aroma. I like Hallertau (and I'm trying Hallertau Hersbrucker this year), but Tettnanger or Spalt should work, I would think.

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I broke down and brewed up a derivation of the recipe above. I had a hefeweizen yeast that was begging for a beer, plus I tend to like a little darker beers. We'll see. I brewed it up after a night of call, so it was amusing (though not at the time) to see all the things that I forgot to clean until I needed them (funnel, airlock and strainer), and I underestimated how much wheat DME I had left. Not to mention I nodded off and had a boilover. Hence,

Fat and Tired Weizenbock

1 lb Crystal 60L
1/4 lb Black patent
1/4 lb Chocolate
6.5 lb M&F wheat DME
1 lb M&F light DME (I ran out of wheat DME)

1.5 oz Spalt (4.7%aa) at 60 min
1 oz Tettnang at 5 min
1 oz Tettnang at 2 min

1 tsp Irish moss

White Labs WLP300 Hefeweizen Ale

I'll bottle with 3/4 cp corn sugar
OG around 1.070

Next time I don't think that I'll be brewing post call...what was I thinking?!

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That's an awful lot of black patent and chocolate (which aren't, strictly speaking, traditional in the style), but should be interesting nonetheless! Let us know how it turns out.

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Cool - 8lbs of Wheat LME and a handful of specialty grains and away we go. Hop ideas? I like sweeter Bockier for lack of a better term beers as opposed to my hop is bigger than yours flavors.
I usually brew weizens with 5-6 lbs DME and hop using whole Hallertau's at about 1.2 oz (3.5-3.8%AA) of bittering hops.

Weizens usually do not use any other hops but bittering and still come out sweet.

If your hops are in the 3.5 range I wouldn't use more than 2.5 oz for bittering for 8# of malt.
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