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yeager1977 09-12-2009 02:54 AM

Way, way, way over the top Sam Adams Utopia clone - #2
 
Hi All!

Well its that time of year to start discussing batch number 2! PaulTheNurse is ready and willing and my lovely wife said go for it! We will be having another Winter BBQ while brewing a 84 pound of grain 10 gallon batch of beer.

Batch number one is down to like 1022!!!! we are talking 20% here! It really is coming into its own and is starting to mellow. The oak chips and buorbon are setting in nicely, and the maple is there but not overpowering compared to the real thing.


So we know what we did wrong last year (more mash tuns!!!!! No more stuck mashes! and not more barley wine starters. The starter will be a nice basic English pale ale....) We are going to use the same recipe as last year I think, until PTN decides to turn it into some sort of sour lambic with fruit added....

Anyway, its going to be sometime after Christmas, but I figured PTN needed a bit of time to get his bashing of Cape Brewing out of his system before we actually do the brew. :)

Thougths and comments always welcome.

UPDATE: Ok so a date has been finalized! Jan 23rd. I will be starting heating up water around 8am. As time gets closer I will ask to see whose coming so we can plan food accordingly!

dontman 09-12-2009 03:35 AM

That is just a crazy grainbill.

My biggest beer is not even close to that size and it is not even close to drinkable at 11 months in bottle now.

Since you welcome comments I will say that this part of your post is very sweet and good for PTN ;):
Quote:

Originally Posted by yeager1977 (Post 1542227)

. . . PaulTheNurse is ready and willing and my lovely wife . . .


yeager1977 09-12-2009 02:34 PM

Guess I probably should have written the post when I hadn't had a few and I would have seen that too!!!! Yikes thats a scary disgusting thought.

Saccharomyces 09-12-2009 04:44 PM

Not changing the recipe a bit?

On the starter... you could use the regimen suggested by this guy, building up a good sized cake with 1.040 wort and pitching that into a 1.065 beer. Then, wash the cake and re-pitch that into your big beer.

yeager1977 09-12-2009 04:53 PM

I bet we will do some tweaks to it as time goes on. We have almost 4 months. :) Not a bad idea stepping it up twice though....

Brooklyn-Brewtality 09-12-2009 04:56 PM

man, this sounds like it would be a fun one to brew

yeager1977 09-12-2009 05:33 PM

Yeah its a lot of fun we had like 20 peple last time. I think we will do more BBQ this time. We do it in my garage with a few tables and chairs and people bring their rigs and brew and we eat and drink all day. The brew process was about 14 hours last time not including the rig setups the night before

PaulTheOriginal 09-12-2009 07:31 PM

Maybe this time I'll show up with my state of the art all grain brew rig...

Or, leave the cooler at home and I'll have the state of the art extract brew rig.

:D

I forget, did you tell me last Thursday night that this was going to be done on a Saturday?

Paul

yeager1977 09-12-2009 07:53 PM

Yes it will be a Saturday

paulthenurse 09-15-2009 03:54 AM

So many inappropriate responses jump immediatley to the fore of my mind...


I think we need to bost up the IBU's a smidge. I dipped my tongue in a glass tonight while watching the Pats. It is VERY good. It is missing something. I need to try it a few more times (and I'm willling to make that sacrafice for all of you guys.) but it needs something to pull it together. My wife said it best at CapeBrewings pig roast when she tried it for the first time. "It is a collection of really good parts that hasn't come together as a whole yet." I think she nailed it with that description. It is WICKED good. But it's not perfect. I haven't figured out what is off, my off the cuff take after 2 ounces was that the bitterness was not up to the task of balancing the overwhelming maltyness. There is maltyness, and oak, and maple and a strong alcoholic warmth and it all melds toghether well but seems to be lacking a small element to pull it all together. The best way to describe it 'beer based scotch.' That's a silly description unless you've tasted it. The original SA Utopia I see and taste as beer based Port. Beer based scotch ain't a bad thing. Not at all. This is, in many ways, superior to SAU. But it is missing something to tie it all together. More research is required.

PTN


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