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Draygon 06-13-2012 04:27 AM

Watermelon Hefeweizen -- Feedback Please
 
Im going to brew a watermelon Hefe here soon as both a summer beer and a wedding gift. I have a short amount of time for this to condition (bottle) so I need to get it done like yesterday. Here is the recipe I am going to use:
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US
0.49 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min
0.49 oz Saaz [4.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min
0.49 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 10.0 min
1.0 pkg Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP300)
4 lbs Fruit - Watermelon (0.0 SRM) (Added in after straining of trub before pitch)
2 lbs Fruit - Watermelon (0.0 SRM) (Added in at racking to secondary)

As I state in the recipe I am going to add in 4lbs of Watermelon Puree after I have strained the trub and right before I pitch the yeast, then in secondary add a bit more to make sure I get a watermelon flavor.

So Id like feedback on the recipe itself, and thoughts on the watermelon usage, is it too much? Too little? Since watermelon is mostly water I was thinking it would have to be more of it used to make sure to get the flavor of it in the beer.

Thanks for any/all feedback / questions provided!

bobbrews 06-13-2012 01:05 PM

The juice is where the flavor is, not the puree. I have a juicer which separates juice from puree so it would make this easy. Watermelon juice can be a little vegetal, so I like to doctor it up with raspberry or cherry or peach, plus lemon and maybe some sugar. I would probably put the juice in the bottling bucket, not in the primary or secondary. I would taste to see where I want it to be at that point, adding more if needed. Be careful with the amount of sugar you're using to properly carb the bottles.

FlyDoctor 06-13-2012 01:26 PM

Adding the fruit in the primary sounds like a dangerous idea - no alcohol to suppress growth of unwanteds added with the fruit - aroma will be carried away with the CO2. Why not add it all in secondary? or some in boil in others in secondary?

bwomp313 06-13-2012 03:18 PM

i feel like the breweries who make watermelon beers use fake flavoring that tastes like watermelon jolly ranchers. it's probably pretty difficult to get a real watermelon flavor into the beer since it's so mild. interested how it turns out however

Draygon 06-13-2012 03:24 PM

I had thought about adding it into the boil and then to secondary as well. I dont want it to be a really strong watermelon flavor, but a subtle one, clean and crisp, not too sweet either which is why i dont have any other fermentables in the recipe other than the grains, could add in some raspberry puree too but that might make it too fruity though.

davis119 06-13-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwomp313
i feel like the breweries who make watermelon beers use fake flavoring that tastes like watermelon jolly ranchers. it's probably pretty difficult to get a real watermelon flavor into the beer since it's so mild. interested how it turns out however

I was talking to some one who had . hell or high water watermelon wheat .
And that was the first thing I asked was if it tasted like a holy rancher. And he said no... it was a real subtle taste....

Ill have to buy it and give it a try but im guessing they use real juice

Draygon 06-13-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwomp313
i feel like the breweries who make watermelon beers use fake flavoring that tastes like watermelon jolly ranchers. it's probably pretty difficult to get a real watermelon flavor into the beer since it's so mild. interested how it turns out however

They do...and its what i want to stay away from as i think that more often than not it tends to lead to a chemically taste.

slarkin712 06-13-2012 03:32 PM

This may get you off track, but I've had beers that had a watermelon flavor without using any watermelon extract, flavor, or juice. You can get watermelon flavors from some hops. I remember having a esb that had some rye and willamette hops that gave a watermelon flavor that was very good. Anyway, just a thought.

Draygon 06-13-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slarkin712
This may get you off track, but I've had beers that had a watermelon flavor without using any watermelon extract, flavor, or juice. You can get watermelon flavors from some hops. I remember having a esb that had some rye and willamette hops that gave a watermelon flavor that was very good. Anyway, just a thought.

I do have some willamette i could use instead of one of the haller additions, maybe the last one?

TarheelBrew13 06-13-2012 04:27 PM

So, is there no wheat in your wheat beer?


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