Pilgarlic

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LHBS doesn't have the Victory called for in my rye pale ale recipe. I'm planning on subbing Biscuit. "How to Brew" says they're very similar, though Victory has a bit more of a "nutty" flavor, and it imparts orange highlights versus the deep amber of biscuit. My question is this: does anyone routinely brew a recipe using Victory that he would consider substantially impaired by a substitution of Biscuit?

Thanks in advance.

ArcaneXor

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Victory is Briess' trade name for Biscuit malt. There is always going to be some difference between maltsters, but they are generally interchangeable.

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Golddiggie

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You all grain or extract brewing? If all grain, you could try just using Maris Otter base malt... If you buy hole grain, you might try toasting a bit of either slightly to get a little more to them. Or just order Victory malt from one of the online stores and brew once it arrives...

I have Victory on my list of 'essential' grains to have on hand... I have 12oz left right now, so I'm good for at least two more brews.

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On Tap: Caramel Ale, Mocha Porter II, MO SMaSH IPA
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K2:
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Pilgarlic

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Arcane, I have you down, then, as a "no". Golddiggie, thanks for your comments, but you must have missed my question: "My question is this: does anyone routinely brew a recipe using Victory that he would consider substantially impaired by a substitution of Biscuit?"

Golddiggie

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I've not brewed enough, yet, to make any one recipe 'routinely'... I am about to brew an ESB (or EESB) for a second time. That recipe includes Victory malt... Now that I think about it a bit, I need to increase the amount, since the first time I used 1/2 UK 2 Row and 1/2 MO for the base malts (roughly)... Not about to open up the sack of MO just for this one brew... Besides, it's on the bottom of the pile.

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Hopping Tango Brewery

跟猴子比丟屎 ・ Gun HOE-tze bee DIO-se

On Tap: Caramel Ale, Mocha Porter II, MO SMaSH IPA
Waiting/Carbonating: 12.5% Wee Honey II, 8.9% Old Ale, English Brown Ale, Lickah ESB, Mocha Porter II
Fermenting
K1: MO SMaSH IPA
K2:
K3: TripSix
On Deck: Caramel Ale
Aging:mead
Mead [bottled]:Oaked Wildflower Traditional, Mocha Madness, Blackberry Melomel, maple wine


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Pilgarlic

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Okay thanks, GD.

pfooti

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Yeah, I use victory in one of my IPA formulations and in a brown ale. In the brown ale, it's totally exchangeable with biscuit, since it's a secondary grace note in the brew. As the only specialty malt in the IPA, I might worry a little, although not enough to stop me from brewing it if that was all I had access to. I've also never tried a side-by-side comparison (I'm in driving distance of 3 brewstores, so that situation seems unlikely for me).

no_borders

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I brew with victory all the time and substitute biscuit when ever I run out of victory and have had no noticeable difference, I'm all for it