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01-19-2013, 09:49 PM
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Very High Gravity Saison
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Hi all,
This is my first post. I'm a new member. I have been reading threads for a couple of years now for advice, but I was apparently just too lazy to join.
I got second runnings from a local brewery's barley wine. I anticipated the OG to be about 1.070. I was going to make an imperial saison with WLP566 Saison II. I made a yeast starter about five days ago anticipating a high gravity.
I am brewing right now. Chilling the wort. The OG is 1.099! I guess I'll still pitch my starter, but will it take alright? should I pitch a high gravity yeast later?
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01-20-2013, 02:31 AM
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It will definitely start to ferment. You may be underpitching a little if you planned on 1.070, but mild underpitching of a saison (as opposed to drastic underpitching of an IPA) is okay in my book. White Labs lists the alcohol tolerance as medium, which is a little vague. If it quits before it's dry enough, you could add 530, 090, 099 or something else.
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01-20-2013, 01:00 PM
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Or dilute it. You won't get the planned bitterness/hopiness, but you'll get more beer!
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Drinking: Graham's Cider, Sour mash Red, Rochefort 8 clone, Yeti Imp Stout clone, Brown Sugar Spiced Cider, Split batch IPA/SBitter, Oatmeal Brown Ale, Belgian Pale Ale, Oatmeal Dry Stout
Bottle conditioning: Graham's Cran-Apple Oaked Cider, Raspberry Apfelwein, Split batch Tripel, Split Batch Pilsener
Fermenter: Graham's Cran-Blue-Pom-Apple Cider
On Deck: Gun Stock Old Ale, BC Haus Pale (half nugget, half columbus), Berliner Weisse
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01-20-2013, 06:05 PM
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I ended up diluting it a little down to 1.090. It is fermenting very steadily right now.
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01-21-2013, 01:55 PM
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I also read a blog post once where the author recommended pitching into half the wort, and hold the other half for ~24 hours. That allows the cell-count to rise in a small environment (not underpitched) before hitting it with the full volume. It's an interesting idea, to say the least.
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#8 Corks in Belgian Bottles Hold Carbonation
Drinking: Graham's Cider, Sour mash Red, Rochefort 8 clone, Yeti Imp Stout clone, Brown Sugar Spiced Cider, Split batch IPA/SBitter, Oatmeal Brown Ale, Belgian Pale Ale, Oatmeal Dry Stout
Bottle conditioning: Graham's Cran-Apple Oaked Cider, Raspberry Apfelwein, Split batch Tripel, Split Batch Pilsener
Fermenter: Graham's Cran-Blue-Pom-Apple Cider
On Deck: Gun Stock Old Ale, BC Haus Pale (half nugget, half columbus), Berliner Weisse
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01-21-2013, 02:15 PM
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That yeast is a monster. I made a 10% Saison, and it chugged right though it with no problems. I did swirl it a little every day once the fermentation slowed way down. This was fermented in the mid-60 to boot.
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01-21-2013, 02:19 PM
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Boy if you treat this yeast right, even warm it up towards the end to help it along...you could get %10 plus easy on this beer. That would be awesome.
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02-07-2013, 02:27 AM
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I just racked it to my secondary and it is 9.3% abv.
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02-07-2013, 04:32 PM
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What was the FG?
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#8 Corks in Belgian Bottles Hold Carbonation
Drinking: Graham's Cider, Sour mash Red, Rochefort 8 clone, Yeti Imp Stout clone, Brown Sugar Spiced Cider, Split batch IPA/SBitter, Oatmeal Brown Ale, Belgian Pale Ale, Oatmeal Dry Stout
Bottle conditioning: Graham's Cran-Apple Oaked Cider, Raspberry Apfelwein, Split batch Tripel, Split Batch Pilsener
Fermenter: Graham's Cran-Blue-Pom-Apple Cider
On Deck: Gun Stock Old Ale, BC Haus Pale (half nugget, half columbus), Berliner Weisse
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02-27-2013, 04:19 PM
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Just kegged it on Sunday. FG is 1.012, so ABV is 10.4%. There is a very Belgian-y nose to it with strong banana coming through. The initial taste has a rich carmely maltiness, and it finishes with a subtle taste of alcohol. Considering it is a saison, it should be a little more carbonated, but it passes as a Belgian-style barelywine.
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