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Old 12-18-2010, 01:13 AM   #11
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As far as the U2 goes, yes, it is a touch 'harsh' still. That is going to fade and I expect that it will end up as smooth as the U1. Remember, the first one is a whole year older. When we were going thru the development of the U1 it was like that. I remember my wife (who has one of the best pallets of anyone I know) tasting it for the first time and saying that it was a collection of really good parts that needed to come together as a whole. It did with time and I am sure that the U2 wll do the same. It is not 'solvent-y' at all and neither of them ever have been Its kind of weird that we are gettting such a smooth brew given how high the alcohol is but everyone who tastes them comments on that.

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Old 12-18-2010, 01:15 AM   #12
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I hadn't had the original until Paulie was good enough to share a little of his stash... and man, the real Sam Adams Utopias tastes VERY hot. Paulie, what are you, maybe 2% or 3% lower alcohol than the Sammy version?

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Old 12-18-2010, 01:24 AM   #13
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Somewhere around there. Yeager is the numbers guy.

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Old 12-18-2010, 01:30 AM   #14
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my wife (who has one of the best pallets of anyone I know) PTN
Hmmmm..... What's her other pallet look like? Interesting vocabulary you have there on the east coast. We call 'em coasters, fun-bags, or just bags here.

I'm sure you've seen PTN we're doing our day in early Jan. Wouldn't expect you east coasters to want to brave the tundra in January. But, we're Lions fans so we're used to being tortured. Doesn't that Tom Brady guy have some DAMN pretty hair?

Has eriktlupus contacted you about a swap? If not PM me. Ours from last year is bottled. It's still a little hot. Not really hot but not finished. It tastes like alcoholic first runnings, if that makes sense.

Enough trolling, carry on.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:51 AM   #15
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It's pretty funny that the only thing all you guys have is "Brady looks like a girl." Your teams can't do anything to stop him on the field so you giggle like 7th grade girls. Ya, he's a pretty boy. Ya, his wife dresses him in Ugg Boots. Ya, he does fashion shoots. Ya, we've heard it. All the way to the Super Bowl.

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Whoa whoa whoa, not complaining, not in the least. I mean, he makes me giggle but the guy can play.

I just wanted to thank you for the new vernacular and wondering if you'd corresponded with ErikT.

Sidenote: I just texted a friend and used the pallets! Thanks PTN!!

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Old 12-18-2010, 02:24 AM   #17
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I have seen this recipe being developed over the last couple of years and have always been interested in it. Since I live on the opposite coast there's not much chance of me sitting in on brew day.

However, I am interested in some of the logistics...am I to understand you do four separate mashes? Do you sparge, and if so is this a single batch sparge for each MT? How much do you end up with in the BK(s), and how long do you end up boiling the wort?

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Yes, we do seperate mash tuns out of necessity. I use a keggle as my MLT on my rig, Yeager uses a cooler for his. Obviously that won't make it. What we've done in the past is use a bunch of MLT's so that we have the capacity for the grain. We batch sparge, getting around double the desired volume and then spend a long day boiling.

What I'm thinking about doing this year is tinkering with my wine vat and putting a manifold in the bottom. If we can work out the logistics of that we can do one mash and run off into several brew kettles for the boil.

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Right so when I plugged in the numbers I got about 8-10 hours of boil time. Does that sound right?

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That would be the longest 8-10 hours of your life. I get queasy thinking about spending all day cooped up in a garage with Yeager. Lets just say the lad is a bit high strung to start with, add in 10 - 20 people coming over to his house and he starts running around like a rat on crack. I keep hoping that the carbon monoxide snuffs me but the Schweet Baby Jeebus continues to taunt me.

Actually we divide the wort up into a bunch of keggles in order to be more efficient.

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