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Old 05-21-2009, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default Using belgian candi syrup in a Dubbel

Hi all. Doing my first dubbel. Doing Jamil's recipe. It calls for .5 lb table sugar and .75 lb Dark Candi Syrup. I bought the syrup. However, one of the top home brewers that was at the shop said the stuff is extremely strong flavored and take a long time to ferment out. He suggested .25lb of the syrup and use .50lb amber hard candi. Thoughts? I haven't used the syrup before. I would really like this to be drinkable quick and not needing to sit in secondary forever.

Its the same syrup Northern Brewer sells.

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Old 05-21-2009, 04:36 PM   #2
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I have heard of people getting good results using 2 bottles of the syrup, which is 3#. I would personally use an entire bottle in a dubbel, and compensate with making a simpler grain bill.

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Old 05-21-2009, 05:28 PM   #3
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He's full of it. It will ferment out quick. It taste great, and the hard rock have very little flavor to them. Plus the syrup is much more like the products used Abby breweries.

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I don't think it matters how long is takes to ferment out.

For a Dubbel you should be keeping it in your primary for at least a month anyway..
possibly in a secondary for another month.

fyi, in the future you could make your own belgian candi by just boilng a bit of sugar in a pot. Its really easy and about 1/10th the price.

How to make Candi Sugar - Home Brewing Wiki

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Methinks that said "top homebrewer" is unworthy of said acclaim if said "top homebrewer" thinks that simple sugar like candi syrup "takes a long time to ferment out".

If he's one of the "top homebrewers" at your shop, then maybe you need to find a new shop

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Here is another sugar recipe.

I like this one, but then again I am partial.

20 lb of sugar and a jar of yeast nutrient

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Here is another sugar recipe.

I like this one, but then again I am partial.

20 lb of sugar and a jar of yeast nutrient
Just made some #5 up yesterday. Haven't brewed the dubbel yet, but the syrup is great. The complexity of the flavors are surprising. I think I'll be going with 1 pound. Some people use more, but if Jamil thinks it's good with 3/4, well I'll just up it a little cause I don't know how mine compares to the D2. Aww hell maybe I'll throw it all in I don't know.
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Methinks that said "top homebrewer" is unworthy of said acclaim if said "top homebrewer" thinks that simple sugar like candi syrup "takes a long time to ferment out".

If he's one of the "top homebrewers" at your shop, then maybe you need to find a new shop
Well he makes his own candi syrup because he thinks the stuff I got sucks.

He's won 17 best of shows so I do think he knows his stuff.
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I will use the recommended .75lb. Thanks all.

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Also the recipes are for making hard candi. Isn't there supposed to be a huge diff between syrup and hard candi?

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