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Old 04-20-2009, 12:53 AM   #1
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Default Un*earthly Imperial IPA Clone

I recently tried a Southern Tier Imperial IPA and to be honest it was incredible. I have been in search of a good clone and came along this one (Ted's Homebrew Journal: Rat Bite IPA) although it is not a direct clone...According to Southern Tier this beer includes the following:
11% ABV
23 Degrees Plato
7.5 Degrees Lovibond
2 row pale malt
cara-pils malt
red wheat
Kettle Hops: Chinook and Cascade
Hop Back: Syrian Goldings
Dry Hops: Cascade, Centennial, and Chinook
IBU - 153

I am new to brewing and am not able to do full boils so my plans are to do a 4.5 gallon boil for a 5.5 gallon batch. Here is what I came up with for a recipe using 'The Beer Recipator':
10.5% ABV
153 IBU
OG: 1.096 FG: 1.015
2.32 lb. American 2-row
1.16 lb. Dextrine malt (Cara-Pils)
0.87 lb. Raw wheat
Mash 1hr at 162

at boil add:
6.95 lb. Light malt extract
1.16 lb. Cane sugar
3.47 lb. Light dry malt extract

1.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 60 min.)
2 oz. Chinook (12% AA, 60 min.)
1.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 45 min.)
1 oz. Chinook (12% AA, 45 min.)
1.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 30 min.)
1 oz. Chinook (12% AA, 30 min.)
1.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
1 oz. Centennial (10.5% AA, 15 min.)
1 oz. Chinook (12% AA, 15 min.)
2 oz. Styrian Goldings (5.5% AA, 15 min.)

Dry hop with:
1 oz. Cascade
1.5 oz. Centennial
1 oz. Chinook

Since I am new to this I could really use any and all suggestions on where to improve this recipe. Thanks for the help!



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Old 04-20-2009, 01:19 AM   #2
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Holy hops! ......damn.

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Old 04-20-2009, 01:28 AM   #3
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That has got to be more than 153IBUs. Good luck.

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Old 04-20-2009, 02:36 AM   #4
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According to Beer Tools This has an IBU of 313.7. Thats some hops, I will say that.

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I love Southern Tier beer, especially their imperials (unearthy, uber sun (had a bombe today) chokalt) I would say you are a little heavy on the hops too. Whatever you brew, let us know how it turns out in comparison.

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Old 04-20-2009, 01:15 PM   #6
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I love Southern Tier!

Unearthly is one of my favorite IIPAs.

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Old 04-20-2009, 05:38 PM   #7
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that is a crapload of hops, brah...

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I had a very strong feeling that the hops were on 'overload'....I am going to go back and adjust...once I figure that out I will post the new plans...thanks for the help so far!

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I did a IIPA that is still bottle conditioning, it was an extract, 8.5% and I used, if I remember correctly, 7 oz in the boil kettle, 2 oz dry-hop. All samples thus far have been very hoppy, both in aroma and flavor. Yours will be a little stronger, so maybe shoot for 8-10 oz total during the boil?

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Old 04-23-2009, 10:17 PM   #10
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After finally deciding that BeerSmith was my best option to get this recipe right I think I finally am extremely close to the final decision. Here is what the recipe has turned in to:
Type: Partial Mash
Date: 4/23/2009
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: Mike Coyne
Boil Size: 4.50 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 19.54 %
6.60 lb Pale Liquid Extract [Boil for 15 min] Extract 43.00 %
2.30 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 14.98 %
1.20 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 7.82 %
1.00 lb Wheat - Soft Red, Flaked (Briess) (1.6 SRM) Grain 6.51 %

0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (60 min) Hops 22.5 IBU
1.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (60 min) Hops 18.4 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (45 min) Hops 10.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (45 min) Hops 11.2 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (30 min) Hops 8.7 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (30 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (15 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (15 min) Hops 5.6 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (15 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
1.00 oz Styrian Goldings [3.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.2 IBU
1.25 lb Dextrose (Briess) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 8.14 %
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [Starter 200 ml] Yeast-Ale

Type: Partial Mash
Date: 4/23/2009
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: Mike Coyne
Boil Size: 4.50 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 19.54 %
6.60 lb Pale Liquid Extract [Boil for 15 min] Extract 43.00 %
2.30 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 14.98 %
1.20 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 7.82 %
1.00 lb Wheat - Soft Red, Flaked (Briess) (1.6 SRM) Grain 6.51 %
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (60 min) Hops 22.5 IBU
1.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (60 min) Hops 18.4 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (45 min) Hops 10.3 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (45 min) Hops 11.2 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (30 min) Hops 8.7 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (30 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (15 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.60 %] (15 min) Hops 5.6 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.40 %] (15 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
1.00 oz Styrian Goldings [3.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.2 IBU
1.25 lb Dextrose (Briess) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 8.14 %
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [Starter 200 ml] Yeast-Ale

Est Original Gravity: 1.099 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.022 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 10.15 %
Bitterness: 135.3 IBU
Est Color: 8.7 SRM

Overall this is quite close to what I am looking for (a little low on the IBU's but then again the taste above 120 is tough to notice). I am not brewing this one until May 16th so the the tasting results will be in around the end of June.....I will update when it all goes through...



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