PattyC

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First-time poster here. Also my first time doing a partial mash. Bell's THA is one of my favorites, and I'd really like to brew a clone as warm weather approaches. I found the following recipe in an old thread (courtesy of shunoshi) and I was hoping to get an updated critique.

The OG and ABV are low for this beer, but it seems it was tweaked to compensate for a late extract addition. I plan to lower the mash temp to get closer to THA's 1064 OG, but I wasn't sure about that late extract addition. Also, I was thinking Wyeast 1056 would work fine for my purposes. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Two-Hearted Ale Clone (Calculated from TastyBrew.com)

Boil Volume 3 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

OG 1.057
FG 1.014
IBU 60 (Adjusted for late extract addition)
ABV 5.5 %
SRM 8

3.75 lbs. American Two-row Pale 44.1 %
0.75 lbs. American Crystal 60L 8.8 %
1.00 lbs. American Vienna 11.8 %
3.00 lbs. Light Dry Malt Extract 35.3 %

0.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.5 AAU 9.5 % 60 min.
1.25 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.5 AAU 23.8 % 20 min.
1.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.5 AAU 28.6 % 2 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 10.5 AAU 38.1 % Dry Hop

Mash grains with 1.5 gallons of water at 154* for 60 min. Batch sparge with 1.5 gallons of 170* water. 1 lb. DME added for entire boil, 2 lb. late addition at 15 minutes.

Oldsock

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Mahs temp shouldn't affect OG, it has a bigger impact of the FG. If you want a higher OG you'd need more grain, or more extract. Late extract addition is to lighten the color when doing a partial boil.

1056 is a great yeast for hoppy beers, should be a fine choice. Recipe looks fine to me otherwise.

Hope that helps, and welcome to the board.

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PattyC

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Thanks, Oldsock. So do you think adding a pound of DME would be sufficient to raise the OG? I have limited kettle space so I can't up my grain bill too much, but would like to shoot for a higher OG (or at least a higher ABV). Maybe my sparging technique would be more important in that regard?

Oldsock

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1 lb of DME will raise the gravity of 5 gallons of beer by ~.009. Sparging technique will certainly help to get more efficiency. Take a gravity reading and adjust how much extract you are adding to hit your target.

Good luck

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aplus01

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So how did this partial turn out for you, PattyC?

Anything you'd do differently?

I'm going to give this a go soon. I'm going to try and harvest some yeast from a few bottles. Which of course means I get to consume a few bottles of Two Hearted Ale.

djevans3

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I did a PM clone of the Two Hearted Ale. Below is my recipes, based on eschatz:
Boil Volume 6.15 gallons
Batch Size 5.15 gallons
Yeast 80% AA (Bell's harvest from Pale Ale)
Mash Efficiency: 67ish%

OG 1.064
FG 1.011
IBU 62 (Adjusted for late extract addition)
ABV 6.8 %
SRM 6

3.0 lbs. American Two-row Pale
2.0 lbs. American Vienna
0.5 lbs. Beligan Carapils
0.5 lbs. American Crystal 10L
3.0 lbs. Light DME
1.5 lbs. Extra Light DME

0.60 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 60 min.
0.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 45 min.
0.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 30 min.
0.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 15 min.
0.25 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 5 min.
0.25 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU 1 min.

1.50 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.2 AAU Dry Hop

I hit my gravities and made minimal adjustments to come within .001. My issue is I don't think the color is coming out correct. It appears to be much darker in the carboy than I expected and seems to be a consistent issue with my lower SRM brews. I slowly added the DME while stirring with about 10 min left in the boil. Thoughts?

PattyC

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I know you posted this like ages ago, but I actually never ended up brewing the THA. Instead I designed my own Pale Ale recipe, which turned out great and have since brewed on my AG setup, which I dove into early this year. I still have the THA on my brew to-do list, though.

PattyC

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Looks like a vigorous fermentation! I wouldn't worry about the color yet, as it always looks darker in the carboy than in the glass.

aplus01

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Better late than never eh? I've done multiple attempts at a THA clone so far. Need to try harvesting yeast again as on my first/only attempt I think I underpitched. I tried with 1056 and US05 also and they were tough to distinguish in a blind test. Think its time to deviate from the northern brewer dead ringer recipe. Looking for a new recipe to try. Will give yours a spin. Anything you'd change?

djevans3

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Kind of funny were all NC people posting on this thread

If you're going to be in the Charlotte/Concord area in the next 1-2 months you're welcome to stop by. I plan to primary for 3-4 weeks, then wash the yeast so I could give you a jar.

I had visible signs of fermentation within 12 hours and it is still bubbling away 6 days later, the Bell's yeast is NO JOKE!