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Old 12-07-2008, 01:36 AM   #1
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Can anyone tell me what hops the Spoetzl Brewery uses in its Shiner Bock?

I am trying a Shiner Bock clone recipe, but haven't settled on a type of hops to use. I have found several recipes and I see Centennial, Liberty, Brewery Gold, and Nugget used throughout. But I think I read some one saying somewhere in this forum that Spoetzl uses Cluster in their Bock.

I tried to verify on their website and on the net, but found nothing conclusive. I'd like to get as close as possible to what Spoetzl really uses. Does anyone know (for sure)? Or have any suggestions based on experience?

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Old 12-07-2008, 01:42 AM   #2
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I'll venture that the reason you can't find a good clone recipe is that Shiner Bock isn't very popular among homebrewers (nor is it very true to style). However, I'm not going to try and dissuade you from attempting a clone.

I get almost zero hop flavor from Shiner Bock, so a single bittering addition is likely all you need. The specific hop variety is fairly inconsequential. Use a German noble variety like Hallertau or Tettnang. Shoot for about 20 IBU.

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Old 12-07-2008, 02:00 AM   #3
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Yes the recipes I've found don't seem too confident. And yes, looking at recipes for a traditional Bock I knew this beer couldn't even be close (I've only tried real Bock several times...)

When you say "single bittering addition" do you mean like one unit/amount of hops for the entire boil and nothing else? And how would I get to 20 IBUs? Would 1 ounce of Hallertau or Tettnang for 60 minute boil in a 5 gallon batch do the trick?

Thanks for your help!

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Bittering hops are added early in the boil. About 1.25 oz of either variety, boiled for 60 minutes, will net ~20 IBU in a 5 gallon batch.

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Old 12-08-2008, 04:45 PM   #5
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Shiner Bock is made by adding dark malt extract to the regular Shiner beer recipe. Find a recipe for regular Shiner beer (yuck) and use the hops that are listed.

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I know for a fact they use Brewers Gold.

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Shiner Bock is made by adding dark malt extract to the regular Shiner beer recipe. Find a recipe for regular Shiner beer (yuck) and use the hops that are listed.
Citation, please? And what, exactly is "regular Shiner beer?" They introduced Shiner Light after the Bock. I'd be VERY surprised if they simply add some dark extract to the Blonde recipe to create Bock.

On a different note, from the Spoetzl website:

4.4% ABV
13 IBU
18 SRM
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i like shiner bock. i don't care if it's not to style and i don't care how much other brewer's talk **** about it. i think it's tasty.

you should use some munich malt, i'd think. and like someone mentioned above, one bittering addition is it for hops.

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Bittering hops are added early in the boil. About 1.25 oz of either variety, boiled for 60 minutes, will net ~20 IBU in a 5 gallon batch.

Read Mad Scientist post about 1/3 the way down the page here: Shiner Bock Clone [Archive] - Realbeer.com Beer Community

And this is not the first person I have heard this from.
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i don't care if it's not to style
Oh, but it is! It's the #2 example for Cat 4A:
BJCP 2008 Style Guidelines - Category 04
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