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Old 07-10-2013, 10:16 PM   #1
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Default Trying to design a beer that is like wine

As the title says, I am trying to design a beer that tastes like wine, or in that ballpark anyway. The purpose is an olive branch, or one might say a gateway beer, to wine drinkers who scoff at beer as a lesser drink. If I can't get my wine drinking family to enjoy IPAs with me, at least I might be able to win them over with a beer whose profile is a little closer to their palate preferences.

Question is, how do I do it? Anybody have any ideas for me?

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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Is barleywine too obvious?

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:30 PM   #3
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I'd say some sort of barleywine. Also if you're ever fortunate enough to come across Nelson sauvin hops scoop them up. Never used or seen them but apparently they have a grape like characteristic to them. If you do find a place to get them please let me know, would live to give them a shot

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Rodenbach Grand Cru to me seems very wine-like. I like it.

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I'd say some sort of barleywine. Also if you're ever fortunate enough to come across Nelson sauvin hops scoop them up. Never used or seen them but apparently they have a grape like characteristic to them. If you do find a place to get them please let me know, would live to give them a shot
http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/prod...sonsauvin1.htm
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I've never though a barleywine tasted anything like wine; sweet, thick, rich, no tannic bite. A grand cru is more along the lines of the two. Honestly, I've never thought a beer had any resemblance to wine.......

.......and then as soon as I said that I take it back.

Two times I've thought of wine while drinking a beer:
1) 17 years ago I brewed a lightweight american wheat beer using fresh raspberries in a 5 gallon batch. i think I used along the lines of 4-6 lbs of fresh raspberries in the primary. The yeast ate through those like sugar and left the brew dry and tart, with a big time "fruit wine" character.

2) DFH has put out a couple beers that incorporate muscat must (in one) and syrah must (in another), and they both give the dual impression of beer with a wine aspect. My recollection is that the muscat beer was good with some sweet while the syrah beer was okay and semi-dry. They syrah was more red wine-like of the two.

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Got my wine drinking father in law hooked on La Folie. A kriek or other lambic would be my suggestion. Roddenbach if they like sonething with a little more bite. But you probably should look towards Belgian and French styles.

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I've never though a barleywine tasted anything like wine; sweet, thick, rich, no tannic bite. A grand cru is more along the lines of the two. Honestly, I've never thought a beer had any resemblance to wine.......

.......and then as soon as I said that I take it back.

Two times I've thought of wine while drinking a beer:
1) 17 years ago I brewed a lightweight american wheat beer using fresh raspberries in a 5 gallon batch. i think I used along the lines of 4-6 lbs of fresh raspberries in the primary. The yeast ate through those like sugar and left the brew dry and tart, with a big time "fruit wine" character.

2) DFH has put out a couple beers that incorporate muscat must (in one) and syrah must (in another), and they both give the dual impression of beer with a wine aspect. My recollection is that the muscat beer was good with some sweet while the syrah beer was okay and semi-dry. They syrah was more red wine-like of the two.
Yes, if they crave tannins, you'll need to add some berries.
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belgian and french beers would be the ticket. the trick is that the ones that remind me the most of wine entail lengthy aging in wood barrels.

make a basic tripel or SWMBO slayer and give it very little carbonation. let it sit for 8 weeks or so to mellow. should get you in the ballpark.

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