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Old 10-28-2013, 01:24 PM   #51
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I'm working up a recipe for a black lager soon. After three 7.5%+ brews (Peat smoked Scotch @ 22%, Belgian style Dubbel @ 8%, and a porter at 7.8%) I figure I could use something in the 5% range.


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how exactly would the choc malt give a ruby red color though? you have to get some of the red from the cherries to get the correct color...at least that's my thinking...
You may be right. I am sure that the cherries impart a color to the beer but i figured the chocolate would give it a reddish hue as well.

You guys brewed the thing, what was the color of the mash?
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:34 PM   #52
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I don't know the science behind it, but I've read and through personal experience that a small amount of dark malts will give a red color to the beer. If you use too much it will be dark and go brown.

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Old 10-28-2013, 01:43 PM   #53
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Chocolate malt will definitely give you a red color. This was an ESB that I did with chocolate malt and it came out very red.

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Old 10-28-2013, 04:07 PM   #54
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Nice pic NervousDad! Like I said earlier in this thread, Troegs' signature in its best beers is chocolate malt for color and flavor. I'm sure the cherries add some red but this ESB is actually pretty close to the color of Mad Elf; maybe a little lighter.

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Old 10-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #55
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Ok then..maybe it will be red from the Choc then...haha
It didnt look like it would be when brewing it, but then again the beer will change as it ferments so i guess i will see here in a month or so...

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Ok then..maybe it will be red from the Choc then...haha
It didnt look like it would be when brewing it, but then again the beer will change as it ferments so i guess i will see here in a month or so...
It'll prob look darker in bulk, but will be lighter in a glass or bottle. How did it look in the tube for a gravity sample?

If it was dark in the small sample, we might want to scale back the chocolate malt a bit. Another reason could be an extended boil/scorching some of the wort. Just some thoughts to consider.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:32 AM   #57
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honestly I don't remember what it looked like when I took OG sample...mostly because at that time I thought the red was coming from cherries...I do know I should have used 3 oz of Choc Malt and I believe the LHBS gave me 4 oz at least that is what they wrote down on side of bag. I hope it doesn't come out brown as that would be super depressing.
it is a long boil at 90 min, but I am pretty anal about stirring the wort pretty often so I don't scorch.
I wish I remembered what my sample looked like...

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What level of carbonation are you guys shooting for? I'm planning on bottling (and sampling!) in a few days.

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What level of carbonation are you guys shooting for? I'm planning on bottling (and sampling!) in a few days.
It has been so long since i had the real stuff i dont even remember where it was at carbonation wise...i will probably force keg it at 30 for one day then drop to serving at 10. if it needs more then i will just up the gas for another day and try it again.

Im thinking for bottling maybe try 3.5-4 oz of priming sugar for the batch, I remember this beer not being too highly carbed. inputs?
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I'm cracking one open tonight and I'll let you guys know but thinking back to last week when I drank one, it is a medium belgian carb level. I would pin it at around 2.8-3.2 Vol CO2. I don't know how that translates to kegging as I still bottle condition everything but I would probably use around 5.5oz (~3/4Cup) of Corn Sugar for a perfect 5gal bottling volume. Again, I will report back tonight on my up-to-date opinion.

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