Torrified wheat / wheat malt 6 row

**Don** · 07-03-2008, 02:30 AM

I'm getting ready to brew my Wheat beer and ran out of my usual wheat malt 6 row L2.2 .

The only thing I could find locally is Bries Torrified Wheat Malt L2.0.

I don't know the difference in the two.

My receipt calls for 8# of wheat malt, using the torrified wheat should I adjust my receipt any? I have 5# and plan on just adding the 3# of Torrified to my regular wheat.
Does anyone know what is the difference in Torrified wheat vers. regular 6 row wheat?

Thanks
Don

**DeathBrewer** · 07-03-2008, 02:38 AM

from the Home Brew Wiki:

Quote:

Torrified Wheat

Raw barley that has been "popped" open to open kernels Used in place of raw barley for faster conversion and higher yields. High in haze producing protein

* Type: Grain
* Origin: US
* Yield: 79.0 %
* Potential: 1.036
* Color: 1.7 SRM
* Max in Batch: 40.0 %
* Moisture: 4.0 %
* Protein: 16.0 %
* Coarse Fine Difference: 1.5 %
* Diastatic Power: 0.0 %
* Recommend Mash: TRUE

EDIT: although, i think it should say raw "wheat" but oh well

it's good stuff. i've used it a couple of times. i recently used some in my Black Wit

i say go for it! i would make sure you have some rice hulls, though. that stuff can get incredibly sticky.

portlandbeergeek · 07-03-2008, 05:10 AM

my LHBS dude told me today that he hasn't seen 6 Row used for the past ten or fifteen years! I did some research on the wiki and saw that 6 Row is better for converting adjuncts, so i thought it would be perfect for a Cherry Wheat that I'll be brewing tomorrow. He was helpful, but basically said there was no "one-trick pony" way to make this style of beer. Is 6 Row obsolete?

**DeathBrewer** · 07-03-2008, 08:03 AM

most of briess specialty grains are made from 6-row. 6-row is a barley. i don't think there is such thing as a 6-row wheat.

6-row:

2-row:

**Don** · 07-04-2008, 03:08 AM

I have 3 1# bags and on the label is reads--
"Briess Wheat Malt 6Row - Lovibond 2.2"

LD Carlson Co.

Don

**DeathBrewer** · 07-05-2008, 12:15 AM

interesting. i don't see anything about that here:

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Base_Malts.htm

maybe it is ONLY a 6-row? i didn't think that the wheat varied the same as the barley. i know that 2-row vs. 6-row is just a description of the way the kernels look.

i konw there is red and white and a few variations.

Sixbillionethans · 07-07-2008, 03:34 AM

One big difference between wheat malt and torrefied wheat is the diastatic power:

Wheat Malt = 74%
Torrefied Wheat = 0%

So, when switching to an unmalted wheat be sure you've got enough highly-enzymatic base malt to convert it. Randy Mosher gives details for a cereal mash using highly-enzymatic US 6-row malt to make a Wit in Radical Brewing. I think Papazian has details on a cereal mash, as well.

US 2-row and either Belgian Pils or Pale should have enough power to convert roughly their same weight in torrefied (or any other unmalted) wheat. British malts typically have less enzymes so are not quite as good in terms of starch conversion in adjuncts.

z987k · 07-07-2008, 03:41 AM

all wheat is 6-row if you will.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Wheat_P1210892.jpg

Quote:

my LHBS dude told me today that he hasn't seen 6 Row used for the past ten or fifteen years! I did some research on the wiki and saw that 6 Row is better for converting adjuncts, so i thought it would be perfect for a Cherry Wheat that I'll be brewing tomorrow. He was helpful, but basically said there was no "one-trick pony" way to make this style of beer. Is 6 Row obsolete?

Not at all. 6-row barley is great for adjuncts and has more husks to help prevent a stuck sparge. If I'm doing a grain bill with a large amount of wheat or rye, I'll use 6-row as opposed to 2, just for that reason. Also, It's available at every HBS I've ever seen online or in person. Further, I believe BMC use 6-row exclusively.

**DeathBrewer** · 07-07-2008, 06:10 AM

ooh, nice picture. i'm saving that one!

fishops · 07-07-2008, 06:48 AM

I've had success with torrified wheat, but make sure you do three things:

Use rice hulls
Mash for at least 90 minutes
Add six row barley malt

or you may end up with a starchy mess like I did before I figured it out. Also, clean it out of your mash tun as soon as you're done or it will turn to cement, rice hulls or no.