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Old 11-14-2007, 06:12 PM   #11
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The question remains, though...

Can you use a pils malt to brew a nice pale ale? I can get (and almost did) a sack of contintal pils pretty cheaply. I've enjoyed brewing some German and Belgian beers where the Pils is pretty important to the style, but why couldn't I also use it as base malt when making something light and hop focused, like an APA?
Yes you can. You just need to up the speciality grain to compensate.
I use it becuase it is the standard base malt in the UK and I like it.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:15 PM   #12
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...Now if only I can talk my deadbeat friends into buying me some grain in exchange for all the beer I've given them
That's easy: don't let them have any more beer until they do. I had to do that for a couple friends and they were happy to help out.
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Just make a whole bunch of HefeWeizen with the Pils.

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Old 11-14-2007, 06:24 PM   #14
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Yes you can. You just need to up the speciality grain to compensate.
Moreso than with domestic 2-row?

Wait a minute... "domestic" means something different for you and I...
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:24 PM   #15
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And my indecision continues! I was secretly hoping someone would tell me I shouldn't bother with pilsner malt, and make my decision easy for me, but I guess it's more useful than I thought.

In any case, I think I've ruled out a second sack of MO since as you guys say, it's a waste of money in beers where you won't taste it, and I do love making stouts. I'm still torn between pils and 2-row, I was starting to lean toward 2-row but then bird reminded me about german beers, so I'd have more use for pilsner malt than JUST belgians.

I suppose the easy solution would be to buy a sack of each, but I'm not sure I can spend that much right now. Now if only I can talk my deadbeat friends into buying me some grain in exchange for all the beer I've given them
I use MO in everything. Is it really that much more expensive than American 2-row?

At Midwest, which has a great selection of bulk grain, I see this:

55 lbs Maris Otter: $45 (82 cents per pound)

50 lbs Briess 2-row: $40 (80 cents per pound)

50 lbs Rahr 2-row: $30 (60 cents per pound)

Now, I don't particularly care for Rahr, but that would be the only way to save an appreciable amount of $$ by going 2-row. To me, it's worth having the MO around because with most beers, you do taste it.

As for the pilsner, I don't keep any around. When I need to brew a really light beer like a Pilsner or the Tripels that I brewed on Friday, I order what I need. If I were you, I'd get a sack of MO and a sack of Munich or Vienna. MO can be used for almost anything, and Munich is great as a base grain and as an adjunct.

I guess it really depends on how many super-light beers you'll be brewing...because if it's not super-light, Maris Otter works just as well as, if not better than, Pils.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:36 PM   #16
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55 lbs Maris Otter: $45 (82 cents per pound)

50 lbs Briess 2-row: $40 (80 cents per pound)
That's a pretty good MO deal. My LHBS is $40 for the Briess, and $60 for the MO. Still cheaper than getting it shipped from anywhere, though.
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And my indecision continues! I was secretly hoping someone would tell me I shouldn't bother with pilsner malt, and make my decision easy for me, but I guess it's more useful than I thought.

In any case, I think I've ruled out a second sack of MO since as you guys say, it's a waste of money in beers where you won't taste it, and I do love making stouts. I'm still torn between pils and 2-row, I was starting to lean toward 2-row but then bird reminded me about german beers, so I'd have more use for pilsner malt than JUST belgians.

I suppose the easy solution would be to buy a sack of each, but I'm not sure I can spend that much right now. Now if only I can talk my deadbeat friends into buying me some grain in exchange for all the beer I've given them
I just ordered two sacks of Pilsner as part of a bulk order here in St. Louis.

My beers are predominantly Belgian Wits, Belgian Blondes, Hybrid Blondes and Bitters. I’ll also keep a steady supply of my Nierra Sevada Pale Ale on hand. I did use the 2-row, but wanted to switch it up a bit. The Pils contains slightly less protein and is more prone to clearing...offering a crisper flavor with less “grain” flavor.

I’ve had great luck with it.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:12 PM   #18
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Se we have some MO users, some Pilsner users, and some Rarh 2Row users. I think we need to have a vote off with base malt choices. Can anyone put that together?

I say we vote on most common base malt used. Maybe choose from following list:

American 2 Row
American 6 Row
American Pilsner
American Munich
Belgian 2 Row
Belgian Pilsner
Belgian Munich
Marris Otter 2 Row
English Munich
German Pilsner
German Munich

Anyone????

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Old 11-14-2007, 08:14 PM   #19
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What about Canadian 2-Row? That's what I use!

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Old 11-14-2007, 08:19 PM   #20
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Wait.....

Is there any major disadvantage to using Rahr 2-row?

I ask because I've mostly used Cargill 2-row, because that's what I had given to me.... but I was literally about to purchase a 55# sack of Rahr tonight.

Should I quit being a cheapie and buy the Briess/other instead?

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