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Old 03-09-2007, 03:36 PM   #1
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Ingredients
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10 lbs. American 2-row
2 lbs. American Victory
1 lbs. American Caramel 80°L
1 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 60 minutes.
0.5 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 15 minutes.
0.5 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 2 minutes.
2 oz Chinook Dry Hop
Yeast: White Labs WLP002 English Ale

Vital Statistics
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Original Gravity: 1.061
Terminal Gravity: 1.012
Color: 16.65 SRM
Bitterness: 73.9 IBU
Alcohol (%volume): 6.4 %

I looking to try a fairly simple IPA for my first AG brew. I usually prefer darker ales (stouts, porters, brown) but I also like hoppy flavors (Great Lakes Lake Erie Monster, 60-min IPA). So my target with this is a somewhat brown, hoppy ale. I plan on using the yeast cake from my previous ale.
Any concerns or comments on this?
Craig

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Old 03-12-2007, 09:49 PM   #2
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I didn't get any comments but I went ahead and ordered the ingredients any ways. I did make a couple adjustments to the grain bill by dropping the Victory to 1# and adding 4 oz of chocolate malt. I'm still playing with what I want to do with the hopping schedule. Based on the positive comments I plan on using a First Wort Hop (FWH) but I'm not sure how to adjust the other additions to not over power the beer with bitterness and grassy flavor. The Beersmith calculator I was using seems to say a FWH will provide more bitterness than the same size 60min boil. However other places I have read they were replacing late addition hops with FWH. Any ideas?
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Two ounces of Chinook dryhopped is going to be pretty heavy duty...but it is your beer and i have had good Chinook dryhopped beer before.

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Yes, I am thinking more along the lines of 1oz dry hop.
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what made you go with all Chinook?

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what made you go with all Chinook?
An Arrogant Bastard Clone Recipe.
I also wanted to get a feel for the differences between hops and so wanted to try a single hop recipe.
Should I consider using different hops for some of the additions?
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The only reason I asked was that I think of Chinook as just a bittering hop and not a flavor/aroma hop. I don't know enough about Chinook to tell you if you should add something else. When I think single hop beers, I think Simcoe, Cascade, Northern Brewer, and Centennial since they are used as all 3.
Also, I may have misread your post but I thought you were making an IPA. I don't know the official category for it but I know I don't consider Arrogant Bastard an IPA, I would say Brown Ale.
Not trying to criticize, I'm just wondering out loud!

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The only reason I asked was that I think of Chinook as just a bittering hop and not a flavor/aroma hop. I don't know enough about Chinook to tell you if you should add something else. When I think single hop beers, I think Simcoe, Cascade, Northern Brewer, and Centennial since they are used as all 3.
Also, I may have misread your post but I thought you were making an IPA. I don't know the official category for it but I know I don't consider Arrogant Bastard an IPA, I would say Brown Ale.
Not trying to criticize, I'm just wondering out loud!
I know this recipe doesn't fit the guidlines for IPA. I wanted a darker beer with a strong hop bitterness and flavor like an IPA. Maybe an American Brown Ale would be a better description but I thought most Brown Ales had more of a malty profile vs hoppy.
I have seen several recipes using Chinook as aroma and flavor hops, usually in a single hop recipe. I may play it a little more conservative on the late hop and dry hop additions to ensure the beer in drinkable.
Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

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I'm not a chinook fan at all- so let me know how this turns out. Maybe it'll encourage me to branch out a bit! I was afraid to even use chinook as a bittering hop in my IPAs because of my perceptions of harshness. I wimped out and used cascade, warrior, and northern brewer.

This might be a really great beer!

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Brewed my first all grain last night. Here is the final recipe.
Ingredients (for 6 gal)
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10 lbs. 2-row
1 lbs. Victory
.5 lbs. Caramel 80°L
.25 lbs. Chocolate Malt
1 oz Chinook FWH
0.5 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 60 minutes.
0.5 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 15 minutes.
0.5 oz. Chinook (Pellets, 13.00 %AA) boiled 2 minutes.
1.5 oz Chinook Dry Hop
Yeast: White Labs WLP002 English Ale

I ended up sparging in three batches as I only had 4.5 gal from the first two. The SG of the last sparge was still 1.020 so I think I was fine. I had over 7 gals which I boiled down to 6 gal with an OG of 1.058. I had intended only 5 gal for this batch but my efficiency (72%) was better than I planned so the results should be similar.
I racked onto the English Ale yeast cake from my oatmeal stout. This morning the batch was blowing off like Mt St Helens.
I'm still trying to decide on the dry hop. I have 1.5 oz of Chinook left which I am thinking of using all of it, however that may be too much. I also have a couple oz on Centennial which sounds like a more common aroma hop, however everything so far in the beer is Chinook so I was thinking of keeping with the theme.
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