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Old 02-04-2013, 02:53 AM   #71
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The reason I am using the maltodextrine/dextrose combo is to re-create brewer's crystals which surly uses as best possible.

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Old 02-04-2013, 02:58 AM   #72
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The reason I am using the maltodextrine/dextrose combo is to re-create brewer's crystals which surly uses as best possible.
I may cut back on that as I don't care for the taste of malto. What do you think about subbing it with cara-pils?
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I may cut back on that as I don't care for the taste of malto. What do you think about subbing it with cara-pils?
I'd just leave both out if you don't care for the malto. I didn't use it on my first attempt and am just adding it this go around for fun. If I get out to my LHBS before brewing I will just buy the brewers crystals and replace all the dextrose and maltodextrine with it.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:49 AM   #74
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Magnum has almost no character. Then again neither does Warrior. Abrasive focuses on Warrior early and Citra late. I would definitely recommend 4 weeks in the primary including dryhop. I brewed a clone of this beer once by accident (wasn't even trying to, nor did I know what the recipe was) and it was a spot on clone. You'll want to use less C-20 since some sweetness will leach out from the GNO as well. No maltodextrine.
Even with a pound of C-20 it's still too light and comes in around 7.6 SRM, short of the listed 8. Unless the Surly website messed up the order, there really isn't anywhere else to get color without making golden promise the main malt with about 7 pounds and 2-row at 5.5 pounds. That with the 1# of C-20 would get you to 8SRM.

I've got my oats at 10SRM, is everyone else the same?
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I've got my oats at 10SRM, is everyone else the same?
I think it can range from 5 to 10 for the oats.
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Even with a pound of C-20 it's still too light and comes in around 7.6 SRM, short of the listed 8. Unless the Surly website messed up the order, there really isn't anywhere else to get color without making golden promise the main malt with about 7 pounds and 2-row at 5.5 pounds. That with the 1# of C-20 would get you to 8SRM.

I've got my oats at 10SRM, is everyone else the same?
I got the same I think, 10L? Also what does malto taste like?
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Where I bought was listed as 7-14, I went with 10, then saw Northern Brewer had it at 10. Malto helps to add body and mouthfeel without much sweetness, if you're at 6oz or 4oz, you won't necessarily taste it, you might notice it though in the feel.

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Sorry if I have confused anyone. I think option number one would be to use a pound of brewer's crystals and nothing else. If you can't get that, make your choice of adding a pound of dextrose, or some dextrose and maltodextrin, or dextrose and carapils, it should all be close.

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Sorry if I have confused anyone. I think option number one would be to use a pound of brewer's crystals and nothing else. If you can't get that, make your choice of adding a pound of dextrose, or some dextrose and maltodextrin, or dextrose and carapils, it should all be close.
No worries, ill just brew it as you had it and go with it
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Even with a pound of C-20 it's still too light and comes in around 7.6 SRM, short of the listed 8. Unless the Surly website messed up the order, there really isn't anywhere else to get color without making golden promise the main malt with about 7 pounds and 2-row at 5.5 pounds. That with the 1# of C-20 would get you to 8SRM.

I've got my oats at 10SRM, is everyone else the same?
Rebelbrewer lists Simpsons Golden Naked Oats as 15 SRM.

And I wouldn't be worried about rounding 7.6 SRM up to 8. Even if it were off by a whole point, a slight color difference would be the least of my worries. A slight difference in color could also result from Surly's individual brewing methods (not the ingredients).
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