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Old 10-01-2012, 01:07 AM   #21
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This beer has gotten very favorable reviews, even from BMC drinkers. I find it very surprising because this is one of the strongest and most bitter beers I've ever brewed. It's absolutely fantastic and unique. Clear as glass. I wonder if I should add more citra or not, I like this version quite a lot. I've never had a real Abrasive, so I can't comment on it's official status as a clone. At times, I think the golden naked oats, at 6.9%, are a bit too noticeable. At others (warm temps) not at all.



I wish someone had this clone recipe and a real Surly to see how they compare.

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Old 10-01-2012, 12:39 PM   #22
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Looks good. I remember Abrasive being slightly darker and much hazier than that with a 2 finger head.

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Old 10-01-2012, 08:14 PM   #23
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Well, that photo was from the end of the glass, after being in the glass for 15 minutes, hence the small ring of head. As far as the haze, I didn't use any fining agents, but it's been in the keg for a month. I wonder though if they do some sort of hop injection on the way into the bottle/keg/can.

It's hard to see color correctly in photograph, but you're right, the vast majority of photos of Abrasive are darker and slightly more orangey. I'll alter the recipe and brew it again whenever the abrasive hits the market again, I found a place that sells and ships it online when it's available, France44.com

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Old 10-17-2012, 07:35 PM   #24
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You can't clone Abrasive via the Extract method. Partial Mash will work; All Grain would be better.
You can however adjust the 90 minute boil to 60 minutes, if desired (see below). The key to this beer is the late hop additions.

Abrasive

Partial Mash BIAB Clone
1.081 OG / 1.015 FG
7.5 SRM
8.8% ABV
118-122 ish IBUs

55% Muntons Extra Light DME (Half as a Late Addition)
25% Simpsons Golden Promise (Mash @ 149 for 60 min)
10% Corn Sugar (Late Addition)
5% Simpsons Golden Naked Oats (Mash @ 149 for 60 min)
5% Briess Crystal 20L (Mash @ 149 for 60 min)

35-40 IBUs from Warrior pellets @ 60 min
30-40 IBUs from Warrior pellets @ 25 min
20-25 IBUs from Citra pellets @ 15 min
15-20 IBUs from Citra pellets @ 10 min
Post-Boil Aroma Steep with 0.40 oz. Citra pellets per gallon of beer @ 30 min
Dry Hop with 0.80 oz. Citra pellets per gallon of beer @ 10 days

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This looks pretty good. I plan to start brewing again soon now that I have more time and this will definitely make my short-list of things to try. I've had a few successful partial-mash batches so that shouldn't be a problem. Thanks
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:13 PM   #25
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I plan to brew this on Sunday as my first all-grain batch, hoping things go well. I can get Abrasive here where I live (in about 1.5 months) and will then get a chance to see how close the recipe is. Even if it is close to the real thing, i am sure it will be great. I don't think a guy can go wrong with Citra hops and Simpsons malt/oats!

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Old 10-22-2012, 03:15 PM   #26
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This beer has gotten very favorable reviews, even from BMC drinkers. I find it very surprising because this is one of the strongest and most bitter beers I've ever brewed. It's absolutely fantastic and unique. Clear as glass. I wonder if I should add more citra or not, I like this version quite a lot. I've never had a real Abrasive, so I can't comment on it's official status as a clone. At times, I think the golden naked oats, at 6.9%, are a bit too noticeable. At others (warm temps) not at all.



I wish someone had this clone recipe and a real Surly to see how they compare.
I assume you made a starter?! If so, how large?
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:29 PM   #27
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I did a 3 liter starter for this batch.

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How is it aging?

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Old 10-25-2012, 11:41 PM   #29
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How is it aging?
Don't know, a small group of BMC drinkers kicked the keg in a weekend.

I will make this again and make it a bit darker and add the extra ounce of citra once my pellets come from label peelers.
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I brewed this a few weeks back, pitched a 2 liter starter. My original gravity was 1.072 so my efficiency was off so i added some extra light dme to kicked it up a few points, but not bad for my first all grain brew! I dry hopped in the secondary with 3 oz of citra for 7 days then added another ounce for the final 3 days. I roused the hops every few days. I bottled this stuff today and peeled off some for tasting. WOW! Just like the real thing, especially the smell, it is right on. As far as I can tell so far, the flavor is damn close, but I won't know for sure until its conditioned, I can't wait!

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