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Brewpastor 04-26-2006 10:22 PM

Stupid Hops, remind me of Glade Plug-ins
I am sampling an oak aged YETI IMPERIAL STOUT. ($7 for a bomber!) It is a good beer, but it has way too many hops, particularly in the finish. They totally mask all the tasty malt and oak characters of this beer and just leave you with the sense that this is a BIG HOPPY beer.

I thinking I am on the edge of another rant (I HATE WHEAT BEER CLONES!) but why hide all that great malt with hops? Even from an economics stand point, we spend all this money on great malt and then pull out the Glad Plug-in to cover it up. You know what I mean, you go into a friends house and all you smell is ALPINE MEADOW while you know good and well there is some garlic chicken aroma in there somewhere!

I think I need to back off on my hopping rate on the 18,252.5 Nights IPS recipe we are playing with. Maybe get the IBUs down to 50 as well!

cweston 04-27-2006 12:18 AM

It's the same spirit of "dicksizing," IMHO, that led to things like roasted-to-the-point-of-burnt coffee (thanks, Starbucks), hot sauces that are practically pure capcaisin (sp?) and inedible, 90 IBU IPAs, and so on.

Don't get me worng: I love dark-roasted coffee, habanero sauce, and hoppy beers. But there's a competitive impulse that takes over and drives these things to ridiculous extremes, especially with food products like the ones I've listed, which the mainstream considers extreme to begin with.

That's a Great Divide beer, right? I really like their Titan IPA, but that, too, is over-hopped a bit IMHO.

david_42 04-27-2006 12:19 AM

It's a fad. I'm certainly tired of Cascades in everything. Widmer's w'06 is another example. They say it's a Red, but it's hopped like an IPA. In fact, it's hoppier than their new Broken Halo IPA.

Rhoobarb 04-27-2006 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by david_42
... I'm certainly tired of Cascades in everything. ...

I love hoppy beers, fiery foods,etc., too. But I agree, I'm kind of Cascade-ed out. And I have them growing in my backyard!:rolleyes: I'm out right now and should order more. But I've been more inclined lately to substitute other breeds in their place.

There's something to be said for balance!

RichBrewer 04-27-2006 02:19 AM

I tend to agree with you Brewpastor. I can enjoy a nicely hopped IPA but when I'm drinking a big beer I like the malt back bone to dominate the taste with a nice hop back ground to balance and compliment the malt.
I will admit however that the Hop Rod Rye I tried was pretty good. The hops in that almost assault your senses but the malt back bone is still there. I don't know how they do it but that is pretty good beer.

EDIT: Brewpastor you have been added to my spelling checker.:mug:

Ivan Lendl 04-27-2006 02:36 AM

Yeah down with Cascades!!!

But i LOVE French roast coffee!!!

david_42 04-27-2006 02:25 PM

Hop Rod Rye? 25% rye is the main kick.

I've got Cascades growing as well, but I'm really hoping the Fuggles and Willamette come through this year. Fresh hopping, right from the vine!

cweston 04-27-2006 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bjorn Borg
Yeah down with Cascades!!!

Nah--cascade is fine. It's the amount that goes into some beers that is the problem.


But i LOVE French roast coffee!!!
Me too--in fact I'm drinking it right now (from a local roasterie). But Starbucks Frenc roast, like pretty-much all of their coffees IMHO, is just over-roasted.

Baron von BeeGee 04-27-2006 03:16 PM

Anything with oil showing on it is overroasted for my tastes, and *$'s is just charcoal. Actually, any coffee I've had from the main Left Coast purveyors has been charcoal.

Cheesefood 04-27-2006 03:22 PM

I'm a malt-head. I appreciate hops, but I love the malt flavors and love the occasional sweet, malty beer. Then again, I like a hoppy beer too from time to time, but not nearly as often or as much as a malty.

But I agree, it's a fad. It's one of those things that taste horrible, yet people claim to "love it" just to seem eclectic. Just like super-hot sauces, etc. I love hot sauce, but the "Dave's Insanity" inspired sauces are just inedible.

(FYI, for an AWESOME hot sauce, http://www.susieshotsauce.com)

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