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Old 09-18-2009, 07:00 PM   #1
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Default Sterling Pale Ale - Recipe critique

I was at Russian River earlier this summer and they had an all Sterling Pale Ale on tap that was just fantasitc and I thought I would try to come up with something on my test system.

I bought a extra cooler for a mash/tun and use my HLT to boil in after all the water has been used for sparging from both a 5-10gallon batch and this smaller 3 gallon batch. I have done one brew so far and works pretty good. I can get both beers done in 5-6 hours.

Anyways, back on topic, what do you think of this recipe. I am basing this off of the principles Vinnie mentioned on making a great IIPA in the summer Zymurgy issue, I realize this is an APA but thought I would bring the ideas over in moderation.

Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 3.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.79 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 5.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 42.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 83.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.25 lb Great Western 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 89.47 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.26 %
0.75 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (60 min) Hops 32.1 IBU
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (15 min) Hops 10.6 IBU
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.25 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 5.26 %
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [StartYeast-Ale

Let me know what you think, I know it's simple but that is what I want, almost a SMASH but not quite.

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Old 09-21-2009, 04:47 PM   #2
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I want to dry hop this too so I am going to switch up the hopping a little. I only have 2oz of sterling so.....

0.75 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (60 min) Hops 32.1 IBU
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (15 min) Hops 10.6 IBU
0.25 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] Dry hop

I know the amounts look small but this is only for a 3 gallon test batch.

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Old 09-23-2009, 06:39 PM   #3
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more change yet again. I will be sure by Saturday though.

4.5 lb Great Western 2 Row (2.0 SRM) Grain 92.2 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.12 %
0.65 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (FWH) Hops 30 IBU
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (15 min) Hops 10.6 IBU
0.35 oz Sterling [7.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 oz Sterling [7.00 %] Dry Hop
0.13 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 2.66 %
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [StartYeast-Ale

Should be 1.051 OG mash at 152

Previous pales and IPAs I have used pretty soft water. This time I want to go back to using tap water with is fairly hard, not well water by any means though.

As for the others, I am shooting for

CA:70 MG: 20 NA: 16 SO4: 175 CL: 55 HCO3: ~150 - 180

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I would say if you mash at 152F you might need some more crystal but YMMV. Also, you don't need sugar in a pale ale. IPA maybe, PA no. Even though you FWH, I would still add a little at 60 minutes. Maybe cut back or eliminate the 15 minute if needed. Looks tasty!

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IMO you only need three additions, FWH (or 20 min) for flavor, 60 min for bittering, and flame out for aroma.

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I would say if you mash at 152F you might need some more crystal but YMMV. Also, you don't need sugar in a pale ale. IPA maybe, PA no. Even though you FWH, I would still add a little at 60 minutes. Maybe cut back or eliminate the 15 minute if needed. Looks tasty!
I started off thinking of mashing at 150 but thought it might go a little too low. Are you saying if I mash at 152, I would need more crystal to go with the residual sweetness to balance?
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Sounds great! I love Sterling hops. I've found them to be like saaz.

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I started off thinking of mashing at 150 but thought it might go a little too low. Are you saying if I mash at 152, I would need more crystal to go with the residual sweetness to balance?
IMO unless you are doing a late hop burst PA you will probably need some sweetness to balance the beer and give it some body. I'm thinking a least a 1/2# crystal and/or dextrin. IPA's are great dry but PA's not so much but YMMV.
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I know Vinny does not go over 5% crystal malt in his IPA, I heard this on one of the brewcast shows. I would also drop the sugar as well.

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Sterling is real good in a blond ale so I'd keep the IBUs under 30. You wont need any crystal and dry is good.

A Smashing Sterling Blond.
http://hopville.com/recipe/100265/bl...terling-blonde
I may just brew it.

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