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Old 03-27-2011, 08:26 PM   #1
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While waiting and watching my last boil, I had an idea for us extract brewers. Some company should come out with dry extracts of many individual specialty grains so that you could effectively make an extract beer with all the characteristics of an AG. They could sell these in smaller packages and have a simple conversion table listed. What do you think?


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Old 03-27-2011, 08:51 PM   #2
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That's a cool idea, and I don't want to crap on you or anything, but the reason that they DON'T do that is because you can just steep those and get the flavors. The ones that they provide need to be mashed which is harder for extract brewers to do.
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They have extracts of many grains- pilsner, Munich, two-row, etc. Some of the light extracts also have carapils in them. The "amber" extract has crystal in it, and so does the "dark" but they don't identify how much or what kind.
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I know I can get flavors from the grains, but no body or malt without a partial mash. Sure you could probably supplement the body with various kinds of extract.

And while some extracts might have a mixture of grains, if I was trying to mimic an AG recipe I'd want at minimum an exact recipe of what went in it, which from what I've seen so far isn't on the label.

Basically, I think it'd be great to be to throw in 5lb 2 row, 4 oz munich extract, 3 oz special b, etc. and start the boil, getting more consistent results. Certainly would take out a lot of the variability for developing recipes since you wouldn't have to worry about if you had extracted enough of the malt, had some off flavor produced by that one grain at a certain temp through some chemical reaction and then worrying about water quality. While that is a huge part of the art and science of brewing, and what makes me so interested in HB, as far as creating consistent beers to study and refine, extracts seem like they'd make it easy.

Just my thoughts.
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FYI there are grains out there that you just can't get from extract brewing (from what I have read anyway). What is your set-up like? Perhaps you can AG with minimal equipment purchase?
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:21 AM   #6
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My current setup is the fairly standard gas cooktop, 5 gal kettle, plastic fermenter, carboy secondary, etc. Normally I do extract plus specialty grains.

So are you saying some grains can't be made into extracts or that they won't give the same characteristics without a full mash?


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