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Old 09-04-2009, 03:57 AM   #1
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Does anyone have a lead on where to get sorghum malt? I know extract is available, but I'm not interested in it. I would like to experiment making a gluten free beer for a friend and also I've wanted to try making the opaque sorghum beer of southern Africa. I know Bards has someone growing and malting for them, but I wonder if it is available elsewhere... I know some people malt their own, and although that is admirable in my eyes, I'd rather spend that time mashing and I haven't had any success finding unmalted sorghum in Portland Oregon anyway. Any help is appreciated.

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Old 09-04-2009, 04:37 PM   #2
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I did a lot of looking a couple months back, didn't find anyone malting it. Odd given the amount of sorghum grow in western Oregon, that it isn't available retail.

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Nobody is making it for retail. I think the owner of Bards is a part owner of the malting company that they get their sorghum from and they only sell to Bards.

I don't think anyone else has malted sorghum because gluten free brewers are a small, nitch market. I doubt they could make enough money off sorghum alone and the cross contamination issues of malting both sorghum and barley would be a problem.

I've malted some of my own quinoa and amaranth. I'm going to start malting some millet, buckwheat and quinoa this weekend.

My amaranth and quinoa beer got an infection. I racked under the mold, but there are definatly some off flavors. I've been letting it age a few more weeks and I'm now able to taste what the grains contributed. It's not bad, so I'm definately going to continue experimenting.

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I sent an email to Bard's the same night I posted to this forum, asking whether they offer any amount of malted sorghum to homebrewer's and got this reply:

We hope you like Bard's. We think we have the best gluten-free beer on the
market as only Bard's malts its sorghum for traditional taste and aroma the
beer lovers desire.

At this time, our sorghum malt is not commercially available. Sorry we are
unable to help you with our request.

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It is surprising that it is so hard to find. I called an African market today, and although they don't carry it themselves, the guy I talked to seemed to remember seeing it at another market. I'll keep calling.

May be I should be looking into getting some raw sorghum from eastern Oregon to play with. I know I said I didn't want to malt my own, but if there's no other option...

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Well someone is making a lot of it because Anheuser-Busch is using it for RedBridge and they don't make small amounts of anything.

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Well someone is making a lot of it because Anheuser-Busch is using it for RedBridge and they don't make small amounts of anything.
They have access to a lot of manufactured enzymes that we don't have access too. They are using unmalted grains and getting the enzymes from a lab.
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Nobody is making it for retail. I think the owner of Bards is a part owner of the malting company that they get their sorghum from and they only sell to Bards.

I don't think anyone else has malted sorghum because gluten free brewers are a small, nitch market. I doubt they could make enough money off sorghum alone and the cross contamination issues of malting both sorghum and barley would be a problem.

I've malted some of my own quinoa and amaranth. I'm going to start malting some millet, buckwheat and quinoa this weekend.

My amaranth and quinoa beer got an infection. I racked under the mold, but there are definatly some off flavors. I've been letting it age a few more weeks and I'm now able to taste what the grains contributed. It's not bad, so I'm definately going to continue experimenting.

Could you offer me some tips on the malting process or direct me to a thread that addresses that topic. I haven't found one yet. I got some buckwheat and found a method to malt and will try it. But how do you get the controlled 60 degree temperature? My only Johnson control thermostat is on my kegerator and I can't buy another right now.
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I sent an email to Bard's the same night I posted to this forum, asking whether they offer any amount of malted sorghum to homebrewer's and got this reply:

We hope you like Bard's. We think we have the best gluten-free beer on the
market as only Bard's malts its sorghum for traditional taste and aroma the
beer lovers desire.

At this time, our sorghum malt is not commercially available. Sorry we are
unable to help you with our request.

Brian


It is surprising that it is so hard to find. I called an African market today, and although they don't carry it themselves, the guy I talked to seemed to remember seeing it at another market. I'll keep calling.

May be I should be looking into getting some raw sorghum from eastern Oregon to play with. I know I said I didn't want to malt my own, but if there's no other option...
Bards could sell the malt to us if they wanted to, other microbrewerys do it. And their GF isn't very good in my opinion, at least not the 6 pack I bought. Sorghum and sorghum malt is available if you don't mind buying 3000 metric tons or buying 350 acres of sorghum at once. I guess Anheiser is buying in bulk to brew their Redbridge and of course Bards. At least you got a response when you contacted them. I emailed and they didn't even bother rsvping.

It does seem rather odd that sorghum malt extract is so readily available in the retail market yet not the malt itself.
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Austin Homebrew Supply carries sorghum...

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Thank you but this is not sorghum malt. The reason we search for malt and not malt extract or syrup is because the malt can help convert other unmalted grains like flaked corn and extract or syrup can not. Sorghum malt extract and syrups are readily available for brewing. It seems odd that the malt it is made from is not readily available.
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