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Old 10-05-2012, 01:39 PM   #1
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Default Simcoe/Sorachi/Summit IPA ??

Any thoughts on my hop schedule for an IPA. I've never used Sorachi Ace, or for that matter made an IPA with only high AA hops like this. I want to try it as an experiment with FWH so basically Ill take the same hop schedule and brew again with the FWH moved down to a 20 min addition.

It's for a 5.5 gallon batch, IBUs with the fwh are predicted at 62, OG 1.063.

0.5 oz Sorachi Ace FWH
0.5 oz Nugget 60
0.5 oz Simcoe 20
0.5 oz Sorachi Ace 10
0.5 oz Summit 10
0.5 oz Simcoe 0
0.5 oz Summit 0

Dry hop 0.5 oz ea, Summit/Simcoe/Sorachi

I keep playing around and can't seem to settle myself on a final idea. What do you guys think?

Cheers,
Mike

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Old 10-05-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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Sounds like a bad combo to me, to be honest. You'll get citrus/pine from the Simcoe, lemon from the Sorachi Ace, and onion/garlic from the Summit.

I would drop the Summit and just go with the 1st two.

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Old 10-05-2012, 02:48 PM   #3
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I happen to love Summit but I do think that it has a pretty strong flavor profile even is used in small additions. I am afraid you will loose the other hop flavors in the combination you have suggested. I have learned over time that a SMaSH will yeild a great deal of knowledge for any particular hop that I can then apply or experiment with over time in other batches.

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Sounds like a bad combo to me, to be honest. You'll get citrus/pine from the Simcoe, lemon from the Sorachi Ace, and onion/garlic from the Summit.

I would drop the Summit and just go with the 1st two.
You received a bad batch of Summit if you get onion/garlic out of it.
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You received a bad batch of Summit if you get onion/garlic out of it.
Try Green Flash Imperial IPA and get back to me. That is a Summit beer and is heavy on the onion/garlic. Read other reviews as well...it's an established trait of that cultivar.
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Well, I've got an IIPA that is Simcoe/Summit heavy, with a little Chinook/Columbus, and I don't get that at all.

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Try Green Flash Imperial IPA and get back to me. That is a Summit beer and is heavy on the onion/garlic. Read other reviews as well...it's an established trait of that cultivar.
while I definitely get it in that beer, everytime i've used it i get tangerine not onion/garlic.
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Maybe I better check out the Sorachi on a single hop beer and do Summit/Simcoe combo.

Ive never noticed garlic out of Summit but then again I cook with a LOT of garlic fairly often!

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Some people might be more sensitive to it than others, but it comes across very heavy to me. Green Flash IIPA is the best commercial example I can think of, they list Summit as the major hop right on the label.

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Widmer Drifter is Summit and Nelson Sauvin, I made a clone off of this site that came out pretty good, I really like Summit and Widmer Drifter. I will say that I went to a restaurant that had Drifter on tap, it had major onion/garlic to it. I think it really depends on the Summit you get.

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