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Old 10-12-2006, 06:20 PM   #1
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10 years ago Sierra Nevada Pale Ale was the first real "microbrew" that to me had a signature flavor and gourmet status. What happened??? Now it tastes bland and dull. It used to have a very distinctive piney/floral taste/aroma. Did they change the recipe? Did going "macro" screw it all up? It makes me sad. Maybe if I can clone it and brew it the way it used to taste I would be happy again. Anyone have a really good recipe? What was the magic ingredient anyway?

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Old 10-12-2006, 06:44 PM   #2
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1st, most beers are tweaked over time. Papazian has the recipe for the "original" SNPA in Homebrewed Adventures.
2nd, your pallat(sp) changes over time too so what you thought was great 10 years ago, you may not think is all that great today.

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Old 10-12-2006, 06:51 PM   #3
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They do that with car models too. Small cars eventually get bigger.

The Jetta is nor bigger than the original Passat.

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Old 10-12-2006, 07:18 PM   #4
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I know! I have a Passat and now the Jetta is bigger than my car. Now I think the new ones look too big.

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Papazian has the recipe for the "original" SNPA in Homebrewed Adventures.
2nd, your pallat(sp) changes over time too so what you thought was great 10 years ago, you may not think is all that great today.
I brewed that original recipe in homebrewed adventures it was good! If you want it pm me and I send you it. There is also a recipe on the White Labs website I have been wanting to brew.
I think SNPA is the best & has been my favorite beer for several years.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:39 PM   #6
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i thought the jetta came first... i remember driving the rabbit, then the jetta, then the passat came out...

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Old 10-12-2006, 11:39 PM   #7
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I think SNPA is the best & has been my favorite beer for several years.
Man, if I had a dollar for every SNPA I've ever drank, I'd be a rich man!

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i thought the jetta came first... i remember driving the rabbit, then the jetta, then the passat came out...
Not necessarily in dispute but look at the size of a 73 Passat:


Bringing it back around to topic. Manufacturers change thing to keep the buyers interested. Doesn't always work though. Automakers make models bigger over time to appeal to the same driver as he/she ages. Maybe breweries adjust the same way. We know that they tweak a recipe from time to time. We just don't always know if it's marketing or some other factor.

ETA: Per Wikipedia...
Passat 73
Rabbit/Golf 74
Jetta 80
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I guess I am not as interested in "why" they changed as I am in "how" they changed, and really I am just interested in drinking SNPA as it used to taste. I remember it having a flavor that I distinctly believed, at the time, could not have been just malt and hops. Did they use any spruce or other adjunct? It had a flavor that was very unique and different from any other beer.

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Perhaps it's the Perle they use as flavour hop?

I know this is a Northern Brewer derivative hop which has a nice fresh pinous flavour.

For a clone I would think about enough base malt to get a roughly 1.054 OG, some crystal malt to get the light amber colour (a few ounces), some carapils for body and US56 yeast. Then bitter up to ~35IBUs with Magnums, Perle for flavour and as much Cascades as you like at the very end of the boil (2 or 3 ounces).

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