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HangLoose · 04-29-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

First, it made such bad beers for me that I wouldn't recommend it for any style at any temp. Second, you can't just use any lager yeast at room temp for a "steam" beer. You need a specific yeast that's appropriate for the style and has developed through repeated use in that style. You can certainly use a lager yeast at room temps if you want the characteristics you'll get, but it won't necessarily be a "steam" beer (AKA CA common).

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Originally Posted by Denny

Truthfully, if it was me, I'd throw it away.

This is great advice according to my experience. Just using it cause you have it is a great way to make suckey beer. Find a way to cool your ferment - its worth the trouble.

Denny · 04-29-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TimTrone

Ah, Denny! You're breaking my heart dude. I'm too cheap to do that. Can I make bread with it?

Beer yeast generally doesn't make real good bread. Beer yeast is bred to ferment sugars, bread yeast is bred to make CO2. There's some crossover, so it kinda works, but it's not great.

TimTrone · 04-29-2012, 06:05 PM

Wow, you guys really hate this yeast. I haven't used it for a few years, but I don't remember it being that bad. I do remember that I got some big time fruity flavors from it, but it worked for that style.

Denny · 04-29-2012, 07:14 PM

A lager shouldn't have big time fruity flavors. When I made a beer with it that was so bad I couldn't describe it, I sent some to John Palmer. His reply was that it tasted like "Bartles and Jaymes Passion Fruit Wine Cooler".

TimTrone · 04-29-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny

A lager shouldn't have big time fruity flavors. When I made a beer with it that was so bad I couldn't describe it, I sent some to John Palmer. His reply was that it tasted like "Bartles and Jaymes Passion Fruit Wine Cooler".

True. I almost got like a fruit stripe gum flavor from it. I used it in a obscenely hopped bohemian pils, so it wasn't so noticeable. I can't throw it away though. Someone at the LHBS will get a free pack !

SwampassJ · 04-29-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TimTrone

True. I almost got like a fruit stripe gum flavor from it.

Sounds like it might make a tasty fruit beer.

HangLoose · 04-29-2012, 08:15 PM

I have heard s-23 likes it a little warm. I may have fermented too cold (can't remember) but it was barely drinkable fruity. I pitched more wort onto an old s-23 cake and it was better but still not great.